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#8tcii Block Of Four With Pre-Printing Crease And Major Re-Entry.

 
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The attached scan of a block of four black proofs with red specimen over print is from positions 29, 30, 41 and 42. The pre-printing crease is in the bottom two proofs. The bottom right proof is the major re-entry position 42. This has to be fairly unique as the bottom right proof is an unusual pre-printing crease plus a major
re-entry.


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Posted 10/06/2020   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Very unique and interesting out come of a pre fold before printing.
I see at the bottom border which would be considered a retouch if the pre fold did not exist...

Question...Could the bottom re-entry be the result of the bottom fold and maybe not a true re-entry..???

Just a thought.

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Hi Robert, You will find this on Ralph Trimble's re-entries.com. It is also mentioned in Unitrade Catalogue. Here is a used copy I have:




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Sorry watermark
I was looking so intensely at the fold portion of the Scott 8 because of the fold over I posted yesterday, that I did not even look at what you were saying...Me bad

Very nice re-entry you have indeed.

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Lovely unusual piece.

I assume is India paper on card stock?
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Hi Glenn, The proof is on india paper but somewhere along the way the cardstock has been removed. I don't think that affects the beauty of this unusual and probably unique piece.

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Wert - where is the re-entry on the LR image.

Watermark - where is the re-entry.
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The image of the re-entry below is cropped from my proof sheet of 100. The same re-entry as the one above. I have circled some of the most obvious marks. There is also doubling downward of the inner frame line in the top corners. Hope this helps you see the detail. It does not show quite as well on the actual stamps.




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Thank you Mike for the much more detailed image.

Looks like ink splatter. Paul
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Here is another black plate proof block showing positions 41, 42, 53, and 54. There are no preprinting creases so the re-entry at position 42 is intact. If you are sharp eyed you will see a dot on the Queen's forehead on position 41 that is also a constant flaw.




Here is a used pair of positions 41 and 42 showing the flaws are on actual stamps.



This is a closeup with the forehead dot circled.



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Posted 10/14/2020   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike...Is that spot on position 41...???

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Yes the forehead dot is on position 41 as stated above. It can be seen easily on the black proofs of that position.

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Here's a proof I have of the position 42 Major Reentry and the same reentry on a stamp. It's pretty hard to see on the stamp.



This was the first reentry I ever found on a stamp and this is the stamp I found it on. Ralph identified it for me based on the mark above the A in CANADA and I was thrilled to finally find one. This was back in the 1990's.

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Hi Jim, Nice copy. A number of the varieties on this issue show better on the proofs. I believe the coarser paper of the stamp and the very light color used for printing contribute to this happening. Usually if you see a flaw it can be plated of course there are a few that are flaws that developed during use at the printers. I have a few copies that clearly show flaws that are not present on the proof sheets.

Mike

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