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A Few Curiosities From The French Colonies

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Posted 10/16/2020   2:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sopotsopot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Recently I managed to buy a really large collection of French colonies. I plan to examine it thoroughly and then sell individual stamps. I found a lot of good and interesting material and decided to share a few interesting facts with you. If there is interest in this topic, I will add more photos. I will also be grateful for any comments. So far I have only used Michel's catalog, but it is very imprecise in these areas. I am waiting impatiently for the already purchased Maury catalog.













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Posted 10/16/2020   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I really enjoy looking at your material. Please continue to post! Great stamps.
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Posted 10/16/2020   4:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
interesting stamps.
the Congo stamps are trial proofs.
http://www.philafrica.be/CHASSEPOT/essais.htm
The Guadelonpe overprint error exist in several forms; like Gnadeloupe also.
The Chine "A PERCEVOIR" looks forged to me.
The 1903 Guadeloupe G&D 5 surcharge looks like a forgery.The right tip of the serif on top of the 5 points to high.Also the serifed G is to narrow.The inside portion of the D is to roundish on the right.There are many variants of G&D put it doesn't fit with any of them.
The Madagascar "Majunga" manuscript ovpt. stamps are forgeries.The genuine style of the numerals are not like in those stamps.These should have a readable cancel of 25 Fev 1895.It was a provisional stamp.There are some very good forgeries on the market.Genuine ones with a cancel sell for over 2000$.They only exist used.
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Posted 10/16/2020   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, please keep posting. The images and both excellent and extremely interesting.
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Posted 10/16/2020   6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice stamps. Yes, please show some more when you get the chance.

I am laughing about one thing. You live in Poland and you're buying French colonies. Couple years ago, I sold my French area collections, except for St. Pierre, so I could buy more Poland stamps. Poland is one of my three main specialties, along with Mexico, Portugal & colonies.
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Posted 10/17/2020   01:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sopotsopot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am aware that some of the stamps are fake, this is always the case in old large collections. Today I will try to show you another portion. I will still appreciate any comments.
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Posted 10/17/2020   05:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sopotsopot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I throw in another batch of photos. As always, I am waiting for all comments. I also have a question about the CHINE 2 Cents stamp - because I can't find it in the catalog.

As I mentioned, I plan to sell stamps from this collection individually and I have this question: Where in your opinion is the best to sell French colonies? eBay or Delcampe? or maybe another service? What are your experiences?














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Posted 10/17/2020   05:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
China 2 cents over 25 cents is Yvert # 19 (from 1901)
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Posted 10/17/2020   07:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Chine 2c on 25c (1901) is a forgery. The 'CHINE'overprint is askew and poorly printed ,wrong color.Plus it has the same color shade as the 2c overprint.For your reference the pic below of the genuine stamp is from a Siegal auction 1091,2015,lot 57.



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The french India red cross inverted overprint is a forgery.Wrong shapes in the cross,5, & c.Like many French colonies overprinted & surcharged stamps from this time;they were pure speculative creations.The red cross overprinted stamp was sold out in 1 day.Collectors were grabbing up anything that was issued in any form;inverted surcharges were purposely done to satisfy collectors.
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Posted 10/17/2020   08:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sopotsopot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, what do you think about the other stamps?
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Posted 10/17/2020   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Senegal 1F surcharge looks GENUINE.
The red cross overprints are not conform.Wrong shape of 5 and poor printing.

Chine same thing ."CHINE" not conform,poor printing & letter shapes.
The genuine double types are clear and distinct.


The inverted "CHINE" on the 5c green indochine is doubtful.
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Posted 10/17/2020   1:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The "Navigation and Commerce" stamps were forged by Fournier and also the overprint applied on them.
Because I have genuine stamps and forging, I can give you some information to identify them:
1.Perforation. 17 teeth vertically = forgerie / 16 = genuine
2.Gumm. white, translucent = forgerie / yellow, brownish = genuine.
3.Design. Flattened fruit, fingerless hand = forgerie / round fruit, correct hand = genuine.
Some examples from my stamps:
PACKHOI overprint stamps are forgerie (17 teeth)
The pair with overprint 05 is genuine (1.5 mm between 0 and 5 is normal / distance of 2 mm is variety). Check the distances to your pair, I have the impression that it is more than 2 mm.Possible forged overprint on genuine stamp.
Guadeloupe with G&D 5 double overprint is forged stamp (17 teeth)
Guadeloupe with G&D 15 inverted overprint is forged stamp (17 teeth)








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Posted 10/18/2020   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sopotsopot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
some examples of the general issue









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Posted 10/18/2020   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Imperial general Colony stamps are very nice.The ones you marked are fake.identifiable cancels are always worth more
a list of the Letter markings in the lozenge cancels.
CCH (Cochinchine)
DJ (Djibouti Côte des Somalis)
GPE (Guadeloupe)
GUY FRANC (Guyane)
MQE (Martinique)
NCE (Nouvelle Calédonie)
NSB (Nossi-Bé)
SPM (Saint -Pierre-et-Miquelon)
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Posted 10/18/2020   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great thread! Nice scans with good information and helpful comments. Kudos all around!
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Posted 10/19/2020   12:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed. I learned a lot.
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