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Particularly Nice Collection Coming Up For Auction This Monday

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Posted 11/06/2020   11:04 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add 51studebaker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

This was posted in another forum and thought some folks here might like to see this nice, clean collection

https://www.taylors-auctions.com/auction/lot/2054

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Posted 11/06/2020   11:55 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Somehow I think they will be able to eek out a tad more than their estimate.
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Posted 11/06/2020   12:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bidding currently at 950. Some way to go there.
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Posted 11/06/2020   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add steevh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the 80-120 estimate is a bit conservative.
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Posted 11/06/2020   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamps101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Geoff, where does it show current bid? Curious to watch.
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Posted 11/06/2020   1:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found it via the link to The Saleroom on the auctioneer' site

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/...ac60009f21d8
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Posted 11/06/2020   2:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamps101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ahh thanks. The actual auction website photos are impossible to view on mobile. I wonder if those British are authentic. Would fill a lot of my album holes but the 35%+ buyer fees and shipping adds quite a lot.
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Posted 11/06/2020   3:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gosh - didn't see the premium. That's 15% more than most. I suspect it reflects the fact that the seller's fee can't be hiked much more because of the scope to shift to eBay, but it's a big disincentive.

You'd really want to see these in the flesh - impossible here from yesterday - or have rather better photos to risk bidding serious money, I think.
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Posted 11/06/2020   3:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamps101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep agreed. Some nice stuff... if the condition and authenticity is there. The super super super low estimation also sort of makes one second guess for a second.
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Posted 11/06/2020   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As a buyer, I would be extremely reluctant to use an auction firm that adds a 35% buyer's fee. Will definitely suppress the hammer prices.
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Posted 11/06/2020   5:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A lot of those stamps look fake to me. It looks like a "fantasy" collection.
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Posted 11/06/2020   8:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wkusau to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FYI - from their website it is only about 28.5%
Buyer's Premium:
This calculated at 24% of the hammer price, plus VAT on the premium at the current rate, where appropriate. This will be charged on the hammer price of each lot purchased. This currently works out at an additional 28.8% Premium on each lot.
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Posted 11/06/2020   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting lot, thank you for posting.

In deference to the vendor and auction house, for me it's premature to comment before seeing the material first-hand.

But...the following unanswered questions come to my mind when viewing scans. Asking myself such questions leads me to refining my opinion on value. Perhaps other readers care to share theirs.

1) Why are some countries, e.g. Canada, heavily picked even down to stamps worth a few dollars while others like the early GB are untouched?

2) When much of the remaining value can be attributed to overprints and nice cancels, how confident are you in your ability to distinguish real from fake?

3) Why is the estimate, as a percent of CV, so low? Is it conservatism due to the foxing on many pages, or additional factors?

4) Why would vendor/auctioneer not further break down the material, for example extract the high-value shilling and pound GB values as single lots, given that the collection is obviously picked?

5) Why is there little foxing on some pages and heavy foxing on others? Was material added in recent years?
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Posted 11/06/2020   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ARCHERG ----You bring up some very valid points .

I have used the words "Manufactured Lots " before ,so some of your points would confirm or question if this is a lot made up just for a auction .I seen this over the years even at some of the major firms. Not sure if it is done by the firm itself or they have professional consignors who work thru the auction house .
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Posted 11/06/2020   10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the same thing as Floortrader except I call them "manufactured collections." Believe these are made up by the auctions houses.
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Posted 11/06/2020   11:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll add some more food for thought (or fuel to the fire):

Why no annotation on pages? Usually auctions have an expert mark out items of value, or tally a rough CV in margins. It's not a rare album, nor are the pages pristine. Did you also note the old hinges and glue marks on which stamps have been mounted, indicating reuse of pages?

It could be quite a valuable holding, they turn up, but I would echo the comment that you must have real eyes on it to evaluate.
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