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Posted 12/01/2020   9:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Trodent to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The Major Re-entry on the Canada 85.



The Shilling Mark variety on the Canada 1 cent Green Admiral.



It was a Great Weekend

Trodent
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Posted 12/01/2020   9:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The Shilling Mark variety


Took a while, then the penny dropped.

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Posted 12/01/2020   10:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow Trodent

What a great find on that 85 Map stamp..
I have one, but yours is so much better..
wait-a-go buddy.

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Posted 12/03/2020   2:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamps101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed - map stamp is nice.

Not sure the admiral is the shilling. The one I have seen is a considerably thicker dot. It's possible it could be an early variety such as on the weeping princess (SC 211i) where there were earlier states of the plate issue and the teardrop grew (sorry for my terminology - just recall an article I think I saw in BNAPS about the princess one).
If I had to guess, though, it is an ink pull, especially as other areas show a similar pull in the same direction. It just happens to be where the shilling mark is. I will let others weigh in but I fear it is not the variety in question.
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Posted 12/03/2020   3:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://goscf.com/t/48715

stamps101....Check this link out..Go to bottom.

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Posted 12/03/2020   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The shilling mark does like look an earlier state than the one illustrated in Unitrade. Likewise, the thicker flaw seen in the Unitrade image is much closer to the "1." Possibly not the same flaw.
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Posted 12/03/2020   4:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
P.S.

Wert's precancelled stamp in the thread he posted the link to seems like an even earlier state of the flaw seen on Trodent's example.
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Posted 12/03/2020   5:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamps101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking more closely at the actual shilling mark flaw, there appears to be a disruption on the top frame line of the numeral box to the left of the shilling mark. Neither example here (which I am increasingly convinced is merely ink pull) or the example in the linked thread has this. That said, the photo on the linked thread from Unitrade is quite small. Perhaps Michael (watermark) or someone else has an example they can scan in to see closer about the frameline.

I believe these are just coincidental ink printing anomalies but unrelated to the shilling mark. I welcome alternate opinions but I would venture that the hunt for the variety should continue :)
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Posted 12/03/2020   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stamps101..You got some thing..Could be the start of the "shilling mark" from he other post....Applied lines to see if they line up..Maybe the start of the mark.

Robert

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Posted 12/04/2020   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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.Applied lines to see if they line up.


Would this not be an ideal time to employ that doohickey guage,
mark locator that we have seen in the Perf Guage thread?
I'd like to see that in action.

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Would this not be an ideal time to employ that doohickey guage,

The Thirkell Position Finder?


http://goscf.com/t/45461


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Posted 12/04/2020   10:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rod222
Yes it would be a nice position gauge for collectors...BUT, how many out there have one...???

Here is my position gauge below..


Not every one has access to one...Would it be better to continue the normal example of what to look for..??
Like below, then every collector can see and understand the position.



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Posted 12/04/2020   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The Thirkell Position Finder?

Thanks Phil.


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Yes it would be a nice position gauge for collectors...BUT, how many out there have one...???


That shouldn't matter, encourage philatelic use, broadcast use,
they are made for a reason.
You may offer two methods if is important to you.
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