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Posted 12/02/2020   03:53 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Interesting - the (just released) 2020 Collection of Australian Stamps has a printing error on one of the stamps.

From the Auspost website:
https://australiapostcollectables.c...publications
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Posted 12/02/2020   06:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like a way of cranking up sales!
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Posted 12/02/2020   07:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are deliberate errors to boost the sales of the more expensive albums, nothing spectacular.
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Posted 12/03/2020   12:47 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Haven't seen anything yet that confirms that they were intentionally included - only speculation.

Australia Post has declared it to be a 'printing error' and, after a phone call to the philatelic division, I am awaiting an email as to how that occurred.

The error is not just in the more expensive album (executive). It is also in the standard yearbook. The 'deluxe' referred to is the standard edition.

Another difference with this year's edition is that the stamps are incorporated into fully gummed pages (perforated around the stamps) and there is no 'mounting' of the stamps as per the past yearbooks.

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Posted 12/03/2020   01:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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They are deliberate errors to boost the sales of the more expensive albums, nothing spectacular.


Human error maybe but deliberate is doubtful
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Posted 12/03/2020   04:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It would have to be a deliberate error, these stamps are put into the albums by hand, such an error would have been impossible not to be noticed, they would have been removed once found.
Seeing that they are included and the Post Office mentioning that they can be found in the more expensive albums, reeks of intentional placement of those stamps.
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Posted 12/03/2020   05:04 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rob041256,

The format is different this year.

The stamps are not put in by hand, they are perforated as part of the entire gummed page and bound with the other pages of the album.

There are no mounts like previous years, where the stamps were placed in the mounts separately.

Each page with stamps on it are like entire A4 minisheets, fully gummed on the back of the whole A4 page.

In order to remove and replace the error, they would have had to rebind all of the printed albums.

Instead, Auspost are sending additional replacement stamps without the error to all customers who purchased the album and contact them to request the replacements.

As mentioned above, the errors are not just in the more expensive albums, they are in both issued albums (there are only two types).

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Posted 12/03/2020   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have done a little bit more research, the 'error' is only found in the Post Office editions and not on stamps issued to the public from the printers.
The stamps in the S/S like pages in the albums are reprints and not specific to the publicly issued stamps as was the case in past Post Office issued end-of-the year albums when they were placed into hingeless mounts.
Although they are errors, albeit intentional or not, they will most likely sell at a very small premium, they are not rare or scarce, and only limited to the amount of albums printed and there would have been thousands of these errors printed, placing them in the common category.
They are more of a curiosity nothing more.
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Posted 12/03/2020   9:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They're already on sale for $435 at eBay plus a major stamp dealer is buying them so more than just a curiosity .
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Sounds similar, and not really an error, to the Canadian Millenium collection bound in album with fully gummed pages. They also were a different printing which had a slight variation from the original stamps sold at the P.O.

It states "stamp irregularity" - missing issue year and country of origin; ------so someone fell asleep at the design desk.

Mike
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Posted 12/05/2020   8:34 pm  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm looking forward to any more news or comments on the error in the 2020 Collection of Australian stamps.
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Posted 12/06/2020   04:40 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I try to avoid interceding in threads but I removed a number of the the posts originally in this thread after numerous requests from the community.

Sometimes it is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance.
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Posted 12/06/2020   07:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Don

I understand why the heated conversation was deleted but why was my comment about the error deleted as well? I rewrote the comment and reposted it, again it was deleted.

My comment is based on facts, not misguided beliefs relating to the error. You did write and I quote "sometimes it is not who is right, but what is right, that is of importance." Unquote

It was right for me to inform members about the dangers of over-reacting to this error. I'm an expert on KGVI and QEII stamps up to the early decimal issues and have a very sound knowledge relating to modern QEII stamps and modern varieties and errors.

When it comes to modern errors I do know what I am talking about, especially about stamps that were reprinted for inclusion for an end-of-year album, to which the error only relates to those albums.

This means the errors would be in the exact position of each sheet made for every album which would amount to a few thousand making these errors common.

This is a fact, and people paying over $400 for them are being ripped off.

When the 2016 Adelaide emergency self-adhesive issues were discovered, they were sold on eBay and people were paying thousands for those labels and that's all they were.

I warned people not to pay such an exuberant amount for them as they will lose a lot of money, only recently a set of those 30 cent issues were offered at auction and it barely made over $500, and that included the auction's commission.

It is the right thing to try and prevent people falling into the same pit as the 2016 Adelaide emergency stamps, and that is important.
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Hi Rob,
There was only a single deletion. Splitting threads is a bit arduous and is not straight forward; my first thought was to save time and just delete the entire thread but I went through the trouble to try to save the threads.

Frankly, I agree with you about these modern error stamps. I have no idea were the hype ends and the facts starts. I was surprised to not see email blasts coming out of some of the dealers touting this error since is typically how I gauge the hype vs. fact situation (ala' the 2016 Adelaide emergency stamps). But this is just my opinion, folks are welcome to collect as they see fit. I also include in my opinion a caution about folks 'investing' in stamps and instead of gleaning the attributes that can always be guaranteed in our hobby (i.e. learning about other people/cultures/history or the friendships, etc.).

In my opinion there are other issues with collecting modern errors including trying to determine what errors might be intentionally produced for the collector market or to increase sales. And then there is the issue of printers waste and the possibility of supporting nefarious behavior by those who work at the printers. But as long as collectors are making informed buying decisions then I am happy. But I assure you that I did not remove your post(s) in any effort to prohibit your opinion on these errors.
Don
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Posted 12/06/2020   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have no interest in any modern stamps but I defend the right people have to buy whatever they like ,After all its their money & their choice if we dictate what stamps they should buy what next do we choose brand of car or suburb they live in for them ?

P.S. everyone doesn't collect for a profit its a hobby .
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Posted 12/06/2020   9:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Don

I understand; it all makes sense. I know one dealer who most likely will falsely tout this 'error' as he created a massive hype in the past that led people to lose thousands of dollars.

People are welcome to collect as they see fit, my concern is the novice who actually will believe what they hear and invest in a dud, and when they realise the error of their ways, they blame the stamp collecting world of ripping them off.

I have for many years explained to people to be wary of so-called great buys on eBay, it's a pity good advice constantly falls on deaf ears, but it's their choice what can you do.

Every collector wants a rare error, when an error pops up on eBay with an inflated price tag, it is a must have, not realizing they are being ripped off.

Selling one of these on eBay for $434 is ridiculous, but there are the impressionable who will buy them, as I have always said, a fool and his money are soon parted.

I will soon post a major error of a 1992 Paralympics stamp with the Tasmania missing from the stamp, there was a big hype about it and people were scrambling to get one and money was changing hands, the stamp was sold to me for a cup of coffee.
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