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Is This A Color Shift Or Have I Been Up To Long ?

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Posted 12/14/2020   3:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm trying to learn how to identify color shifts or double stamped. But I'm a little confused. I have an example of what I think is a double stamp but may be a color shift. Any help would be appreciated. New to UFO or EFOs. Lol. Thanks.
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Posted 12/14/2020   3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rismoney to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That scan looks like overinking. Not sure I see doubling.
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Posted 12/14/2020   4:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ia this a scan or a photo? It looks like it is an out-of-focus photo on my laptop


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Edited by Petert4522 - 12/14/2020 4:27 pm
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Posted 12/14/2020   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a photo. I'm not sure about you but I don't the time to physically sit down and scan 3000+ stamps. I have considered buying a macro lens for my iPhone. But I'm not sure what's best. Any ideas. Cause it seams if you don't have a 1200 dpi scan around here then the picture of your stamp is worthless.
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Posted 12/14/2020   5:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And I believe you may be right rismoney. I thought that exact thing right after I posted the photo. Thanks
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Posted 12/14/2020   5:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The thing is. I have another one. And was told that the center was struck 4x. It caused the image to look as if he was wearing sunglasses. I may still have it. I'll check.
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Posted 12/14/2020   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Drstamp, you are asking about one stamp, one stamp only. Seems like you would want it to be in focus. Especially since the question you ask screams for clarity. 300dpi will do fine


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Posted 12/14/2020   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here you go Pete. Hope it helps brighten your day......lol. So what do you think ? I know it could be even better but it's all I can do atm.


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Posted 12/14/2020   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome, Drstampguy1.

Your second image is larger, but no clearer than your first image. There are wavy lines all over it that prevent us from discerning any doubling that you are asking for an opinion on.

You're asking the members here for help evaluating a possible double impression on your stamp, but you say you don't want to take the time to scan it to acquire a better-quality image for us to evaluate.

Scanning the stamp rather than photographing it (especially with a cell phone) should give better results, and allow us to help. An 800 DPI scan, or even 600 DPI, should be sufficient, if your scanner produces decent results.

Here is a similar stamp scanned at only 600 DPI. It is smaller, yet much clearer than your larger photo.

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Posted 12/14/2020   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I understand completely. I'm just not at home atm. I took a photo this morning. Been busy for 30 hours straight. Thanks. Ps. I just noticed in the last photo it looked to be ink outside the frame. So I'm assuming for now it's just over inking. When I get a chance I'll get a scan perhaps. Appears to be a couple issues with the die itself. Ali though nothing remarkable.
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Posted 12/14/2020   8:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sigh.
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Posted 03/22/2021   01:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add steveb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It may be different in America but a "colour shift" error requires the stamp to be at least two colours where the printing process requires one colour to be printed first, the plates changed and the paper printed on again with the next colour and usually a different part of the design is applied. A colour shift error occurs when the page or plate are not correctly aligned on the next colour print so that colour of the design is not aligned where its meant to be, thus its shifted in relation to the first colour so the design is not aligned.

Likewise a "double strike" is as it sounds, the entire design is re-applied slightly offset, sometimes the paper may have lifted when the press lifts and retouches it applying a slight amount of ink again. Hence the name "double strike" as you get the entire design reapplied slightly offset from the initial strike.

Both are dead easy to see and diagnose, but not from out of focus phone pics. like this one. It seems you are asking about a couple of tiny smudges out from the edge, which can never be considered double strike or colour shift. It may be a blade flaw or possibly overinking issue. As others have already indicated a clear scan is required to advise. If you're too busy then why waste time posting a photo a determination is entirely impossible to give an accurate answer? What having 3,000 stamps has to do with anything I fail to see, I have thousands of times more stamps but that means nothing. You have to put in a bit of effort in order for others to help you, a single clear scan of the single stamp in question is all it would have taken. Its not abuse, just common sense.
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Posted 03/22/2021   04:06 am  Show Profile Check jamesg's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jamesg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please think about it - not all of us have a scanner laying around, so our phone is only option we currently have.
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Posted 03/22/2021   07:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
iPhones have a scanner built into them
It's in the notes, picture options
For those using iPhones:)
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Posted 03/22/2021   07:48 am  Show Profile Check jamesg's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jamesg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, learned something new, however I could not use it for the life of me. I can't hold the phone still enough :-)
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