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Posted 12/18/2020   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently acquired these two stamps. Found out the one is early and has blue paper. And a wonderful 4 borders. But the other one not so sure about. Over inked possibly ?

I also ran across this one. It appears to have had the pen cancel removed at some point. But the ink below the 2 is odd?









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Posted 12/18/2020   10:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1d red - common shade.

Austria - engravers name?
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Posted 12/18/2020   10:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have no idea who the engraver would be. Penny reds are out of my expertise. Thanks. Actually I purchased another large WW collection and these were in there. I was just curious about the color. And excited about the other.
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Posted 12/18/2020   11:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tongman65 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you would look in your catalog you will find that the Austria stamp has that printing at the bottom, either it's an engravers or printers name. Also stamp borders are more widely known as margins in the philatelic nomenclature most collectors and dealers use.
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Posted 12/18/2020   11:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. I was at a loss for a moment when I was texting. Yes I knew that !! But appreciate the reminder. Actually I just joined. I'm rather new to collecting but am learning very quickly, due to the enjoyment I find doing it. Have a wonderful weekend.
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Posted 12/18/2020   11:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can I ask your opinion on the penny red with the blue paper and margins ? Just how good do you think it is or not ? Thanks.
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Posted 12/18/2020   11:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The name of the designer, Rudolf Junk, is shown underneath the arms on the Austrian stamp.

http://artinstamps.blogspot.com/201...lf-junk.html
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Posted 12/19/2020   12:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Drstampguy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes that's correct. Rudolf Junk. Just looked. And the light red penny doesn't have a plate number but the darker one say 77. Thanks. Hope it helps.
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Posted 12/19/2020   12:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Can I ask your opinion on the penny red with the blue paper and margins ? Just how good do you think it is or not ? Thanks.


Could you place the picture back in the post please?
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Posted 12/19/2020   01:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tongman65 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why did the photos/scans that you posted disappear into thin air? If you are happy with your acquisitions, that should be what matters most. Plate 77 I doubt it.
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Posted 12/19/2020   6:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp looks OK at first glance but the lower right margin looks off to me.

Without a better scan I can't help further.
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Posted 12/20/2020   4:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Noocassel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to see things with the relatively poor scans, but sometimes oddities and shadows around the cancellations are caused by the fact each Post office made their stamping ink locally to a recipe sent from head office think sometimes the ink had too much grease. The imperforate stamp is a good 4 margin specimen, slightly spoiled by the messy cancellation. I have an album of over 400 Penny reds that I sometimes look at but leave largely untouched because when I look at the Gibbons specialised catalogue on GB Queen Victoria I just go slack jawed and think that way lies madness.
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