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Are These Old Expertising Marks On These Stamps From Danzig? If Not, Then What Are They?

 
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Posted 01/13/2021   01:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One of them is Georg Richter's mark.

"Georg Richter : this very common expertising mark (genuine or forged) is usually considered to be of little value as it is frequently found on forged stamps. Dealer 1943 1949 (Kyllmannstr. 22a, Berlin-Lichterfelde West)"

(from filatelia.fi)
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Posted 01/13/2021   12:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the help, vayolene.
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Posted 01/13/2021   9:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
second stamp have "Klimpe". In Bavarian dialect mean "I paid for". I will come later for the first. The signature it is authentic.
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Posted 01/13/2021   9:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
for the first one, I suppose same word or kij ging. sorry I can't see well. If klimpe mean same with other post. If "kij ging" is very old duch & german word(before gotic) which was use for "give a way".
If the stamps are forgery of not I have no idea. One thing the signature come from one of the very recognized person.

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Posted 01/13/2021   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
T come back. My half origin is German. I am in moving for the new house so I can't look of my collection. On your two stamps I see two different paper used. Strange for German Staat. In those times any staat have only one printer and only one paper manufacture used.

Second: I permitted myself to download your photos to look at. And: The surcharges letters do not fit. It is two different surcharge stamps.

Third: The red ink used is different.

Check on. Nice. Show us which was forgery. will help anyone.

Thanks,
Silvio
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Posted 01/14/2021   12:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Silviosi----Both stamps are good ,they both are real .
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Thanks, I seed only the pictures. I analyze what I see. If the both are real, after moving I have to go to selection by color ink and classified by time printing. Thanks. If L will have news from Germany about with pleasure I will share. By see the photos, seem the first have thicker paper, maybe the glue, sorry. I know they are not high valuable, (we find a lot), but for the point of view of Danzig Staat history yes. I can not say exact, but those was on the lasts Danzig emissions. For me a stamp represent history, value more or less.

In conclusion: I will contact my friends in Germany, we will look of, and maybe you show varieties. No idea.

Thank again to bring, very nice. I hope the translation is OK. not ease.
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Posted 01/18/2021   7:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you also silviosi and floortrader for your help with this.
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Posted 01/18/2021   7:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any reason to believe either is a forgery. The color is off on the 5 Pf (it should be more orange), but that could be due to environmental factors or lighting/scanning.
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Posted 01/19/2021   07:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Klimpe handstamp is "Hans Klimpe", a German stamp dealer.
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