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Italy, Scott 427-438: What Michel Catalogue Numbers?

 
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Posted 01/23/2021   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add EMaxim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This series issued 1942. I'm using Michel Südeuropa 2001/2002 and can't find it anywhere there. Does anyone know the Michel numbers? Or, if Michel doesn't list it, does anyone know why not?
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Posted 01/23/2021   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello.
That is IT 305/P2
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Posted 01/23/2021   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Roberto59. I'm afraid my Michel may be out of date. To what does the /P2 refer? Can't find it anywhere. Is it from something more specialized than Südeuropa?
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Posted 01/23/2021   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
EMaxim, these stamps appear just before the official stamps in Michel Suedeuropa catalog.
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Posted 01/23/2021   9:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All I have there are "Marken mit Reklamefeldern (aus Bogen)," i.e., advertising labels. These are the /R numbers, and all are from 1924/5. No /P or any others. So yeah, I think my edition must be too old. Assuming that the editors nevertheless knew that these stamps existed, I wonder why they decided not to list them in 2001/2002.
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Posted 01/24/2021   05:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My even older copy (1995) has a footnote below the basic 1929 definitive stamp issue that they are found next to number 641, with the above numbered as 305Pc.
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Posted 01/24/2021   09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Strange. The footnotes in my copy refer only to a) similar designs "jedoch ohne Liktornebündel," b) same designs but with the overprints of the so-called Repubblica Sociale, and c) three designs with attached "Reklamefeldern" (advertising labels) of 1924/5. There's no reference to #641, though that is, chronologically, where my stamps ought to appear but don't.

Curiously, on that same page there is a footnote that says: "Marken mit Propaganda-Anhängsel von 1942 und Aufdruck siehe bei Marken mit Reklamefeld," i.e., "For stamps with attached propaganda labels of 1942 [my stamps!] and overprint [not mine] look next to stamps with advertising labels." But, no, other than those with advertising labels of 1924/5, there's nothing there.

So, did Michel remove all reference to my stamps in its edition of 2001/2002? Without a note saying so? Not likely. Instead I suspect a layout or printing error, that left a blank space where these stamps with wartime propaganda labels were supposed to be.

Thanks in any case to those who responded. You have provided the catalogue numbers that I needed. Michel, I assume, has corrected the error in subsequent editions.

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Posted 01/24/2021   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like some bad editing by the people who put this volume together for Michel.

My copy is the 2007-8 version. All of the information is restored, but curiously, the index on the back cover doesn't correspond with the actual page numbers. For example, the index says Italy begins on page 265, but it actually begins on page 274. So, the problems had not been entirely resolved.
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Posted 01/24/2021   2:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My earlier edition also has a surprising number of editing errors (wrong design image, duplicate entry in a series rather than two distinct entries, etc.). Still, I prefer Michel's organization to Scott's. Also the handier volume size.

Thanks again to all who took the trouble to check their own volumes. There are so many times when I'd be lost without the helpful members of this forum.
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