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Posted 02/27/2021   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Just_fella to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
seeing if there's any information available
I'm thinking there maybe a fake stamp or two




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Edited by Just_fella - 02/27/2021 8:58 pm

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Posted 02/27/2021   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Just fella,

I can't help with fake stamps but there's some cancellation information here:

https://www.stampcircuit.com/Philat...-361?page=23


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Posted 02/27/2021   10:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bobby!
That will also help with a couple other cancellations
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Edited by Just_fella - 02/27/2021 10:10 pm
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Posted 02/28/2021   11:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking this one is a fake/forgery
The star is off and that circular blob

These look like possible fake/forgery or over-inked?


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Edited by Just_fella - 02/28/2021 4:26 pm
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Posted 02/28/2021   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 20 para looks good to me, here are mine.
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Posted 02/28/2021   4:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This was suspect because the star and blob
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Edited by Just_fella - 03/01/2021 02:30 am
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Posted 02/28/2021   9:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Just_fella,

The first cancellation in your first post appears to be from Kastamouni/Kastamonu.
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Posted 03/01/2021   01:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks nigelc
what a beautiful place!
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Posted 03/01/2021   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

1870-71perf 5-11 and compound?

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Edited by Just_fella - 03/01/2021 4:00 pm
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Posted 03/01/2021   4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Look in the threads_____
http://goscf.com/t/54283
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Posted 03/01/2021   5:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's not the 1869 (c) surcharge?


Nope......found it on the link
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Edited by Just_fella - 03/01/2021 7:37 pm
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Posted 03/01/2021   10:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just_Fella, yes that is the pin perf issue. They're not considered compound perfs because the distance between holes depended on how fast the operator fed the paper through the machine. So you could get anywhere from around perf 5 to perf 11 on any side, and sometimes varied perfs on a single side. As you can see with yours, clerks gave up and cut them from the sheet with scissors because the perforations were so poor.

The printing on your 20 para example is just some of the typical poor printing seen on many of these, I believe there was a spot of oil on the plate, or perhaps a bit of paper that gave the dot...
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Edited by billsey - 03/01/2021 10:59 pm
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Posted 03/02/2021   12:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you billsey!
I'm Slowly learning (I mentioned compound because it was also mentioned in the listing in 1965 Scott) old but helps sometimes
thanks everyone for putting up with my many questions and helping me along
I can't thank you enough the explanations are great
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Edited by Just_fella - 03/02/2021 07:09 am
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Posted 03/02/2021   05:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Just_Fella, yes that is the pin perf issue. They're not considered compound perfs because the distance between holes depended on how fast the operator fed the paper through the machine. So you could get anywhere from around perf 5 to perf 11 on any side, and sometimes varied perfs on a single side. As you can see with yours, clerks gave up and cut them from the sheet with scissors because the perforations were so poor.


Thanks Billsey, was never aware of that, assuming pin perfs were a set guage.
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Posted 03/02/2021   06:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Ditto, Billsey. Thanks for the thorough explanation.

Have been collecting for many years. And always assumed there was standard gauge (sizing)
for pin perforations.

Once again the Forum has proven to be a valuable info source.
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Posted 03/02/2021   5:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The pin perfs were created with something that acted like a sewing machine, moving the needle up and down as you fed the paper through it. Those machines were cheaper than the normal perforation machines, and didn't require going to a foreign vendor to have them perforated. After a while using them they found there were enough complaints that they went back to normal perforations within a few years.
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