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Advice On Selling GB Four Kings Collection

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Posted 02/28/2021   10:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Keilso to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, Am looking to sell my GB 4 kings collection, which are virtually all MNH, apart from a couple of LMM.

I have spent around 6.5k on the collection from various dealers.

Looking to sell the collection back to a dealer / house and was wondering what price I should be looking for / accepting. Was thinking around 60% of what I have spent 4K.

Secondly, can anyone advice of a dealer ' house to sell to in the UK.

Thanks
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Posted 02/28/2021   10:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Names that come to mind for auctions are Stanley Gibbons, Warwick & Warwick, Spink, Sandafayre.

What you will receive for your collection will depend on the quality of the stamps as well as what your collection comprises and not on what you paid for it.
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Edited by NSK - 02/28/2021 10:53 am
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Posted 02/28/2021   11:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Keilso to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks NSK.

Appreciate it can be difficult to value collections, was looking for a rough guide on what to accept for stamps that cost me 6.5K, almost all MNH from GB four kings era.
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Posted 02/28/2021   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If, in the last five years, you bought a 1 King George V Seahorse and a PUC 1 in unmounted mint condition from Stanley Gibbons, you will almost be there. If you did so 30 years ago, you are talking about having paid ca. 1,500.

Some dealers are quite cheap, others are expensive. And then there is Stanley Gibbons. The latter, usually, sells good quality material. What I see on a website of Andrew G. Lajer looks very fine. Some dealers have good quality modern material at extremely low prices. They also offer older material at such low prices. Usually, that is not too good. Sometimes, a dealer is not very cheap, but offers a reasonable discount. The highly catalogued material, however, tends to be of lesser quality than the lower catalogued material. And sometimes, a dealer has a very good item at a very low price.

The information you provide does not give any clue as to what would be a reasonable price to expect.
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Posted 02/28/2021   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
60% of retail is possible for the 20% rarest of the stamps, like the KE7 Officials, 1 issues, and all other less common issues that cost you the most. But for 80% of the collection, an offer of 30% of retail feels more likely. The problem is that those 80% are easily found in the market and/or all dedicated collectors have them. Common material always will be common so expectations have to be kept low for that.

The foregoing should be qualified by noting that we do not know the quantity or quality of specialist material that you have, and have no images to see how it is organized.

Edit: NSK was writing concurrently with me; he is one of the GB experts here and should be listened to. In my opinion.
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Posted 02/28/2021   11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Keilso to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again NSK, will probably contact Sandafayre or similar and take it from there.
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Posted 02/28/2021   12:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gibbons position in the market as a high-priced leader means they are able to pay more for material, whether by outright purchase or consignment to the auction division. Just my opinion.
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Posted 02/28/2021   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could you scan in 1 or 2 nice pages to get an idea of what you have here? Sounds real nice . I would love to see a page as I am just finishing up putting together a used 19th century/very early 20th century GB collection .
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Posted 02/28/2021   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Keilso to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks cjpalermo1964,

I don't have any of the rarest issues, top 20% as you stated, I don't have any 1 issues but a few seahorses in MNH condition.

So will have to adjust my acceptable price down.

As stated 30% as rough guide helps, as I have never sold stamps before and was unsure of what to expect for them.

Thanks again
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Posted 02/28/2021   12:35 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You could try emailing some pictures of the better material to Warwick & Warwick and see what they have to say, either as a direct purchase or as an auction commission. If you're prepared to do the work, you might well get more by breaking down the material and selling it yourself on eBay, but I appreciate that, if you're working, that may be too much of an effort.
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Posted 02/28/2021   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think 30% of catalogue is not a bad estimate.

Very nice album pages by SG Concise (?) numbers. If the quality is good you might get a bit over 30% of catalogue on the King Edward VII shades and re-engraved Seahorses. Simple cypher Mackennals may also do well if you have a nice range of shades. They are getting rare (in very fine condition). Presentation helps when selling collections, but not if the auction house proposes to sell them in individual lots. The stock card with Downeys and Mackennals look like they were purchased from BB Stamps. My experience is that they are not always premium quality, but fairly priced.

If the typography Mackennals that are sideways are sideways wmk., I miss the 2d in the set showing. As a part set that is missing the one that accounts for 80% of the set price, you might struggle to get 30% of SG catalogue. So, I hope you have that as well. The photo set below it has the top value (if the presentation is indicative of having sideways watermarks) but appears to miss the 1/2 d. Generally, incomplete sets will be discounted. Still, I see a few sets that appear to come in instalments and may be complete.
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Posted 02/28/2021   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Keilso to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks NSK for your replies.

Yes from BB stamps. Designed the pages myself and used Sg Concise.

So in your opinion, a fair price would be around 2 - 2.5k.
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Posted 02/28/2021   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with NSK. The presentation is lovely, quality looks high, overall much more clean than we normally see here and a strong basis for another collector to extend. It should sell promptly.
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Posted 02/28/2021   1:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice. Great to see a high quality collection. Agree with others that it would sell fast. I'm use to looking at prices of used 19th century GB. Those collections generally sells at 5-20 percent catalog depending on condition and if some rarities in collection. Mint unmounted 20th century GB, I'm not sure but you look like you have a beautiful collection there
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