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Posted 03/07/2021   07:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What is the deal with these British Stamps ? They are so plenteous and have no dates just colors and denominations . Some same denomination but different colors other different in both way.
Are any more valuable than others ? How to know the date.

I'm just lost.





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Posted 03/07/2021   07:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are Machins. The name derives from the sculptor Arnold Machin who designed them in 1967. They have been in use for general franking purposes since 1967.

They are so-called definitive stamps: stamps intended for franking over a long period of time. They do not commemorate or celebrate anything. Hence, there is no year on them. - Although I do not understand why a stamp should have a year on it. - Unlike the definitives of most countries that are replaced by a new set every five years, the UK has used them for almost 54 years, now.

As tariffs changed over time, new values were added to the series. Technologies changed, different printers were contracted and even a monetary system changed during the lifetime of these stamps. They also come with regional emblems issued in regions of the UK. There are thousands.

For a good listing:

http://connoisseurcatalogue.net/catalogue.htm

If you find a 4d (pre-decimal) sepia stamp with 2 phosphor bars, Arabic gum and a B2-type head: 1,500
A 3 1/2p with olive-brown instead of grey-green colour mint sets you back 850
Or a 2 with the -symbol missing will set you back around 150.
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Edited by NSK - 03/07/2021 08:04 am
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Posted 03/07/2021   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks
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Posted 03/07/2021   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ringo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are literally hundreds of them, issued since 1967. Ones with the value in "d" rather than "p" are 1967-1971. Then that changed to "p" and they had 'wide' values. Then they changed to 'narrow' values. Then eliptical perforations were introduced, then self-adhesives. Add to that larger-sized high-values and NVI (1st class, 2nd class etc, rather than a value in pence), horizontals, and many other sub-types, they go on and on...

Then there's phosphor bands, back-prints, security features, etc...

This is generally recognised as a fine starting point for research/collecting: https://adminware.ca/machin.htm
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Posted 03/07/2021   09:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! This stamp seems to be the "longest living "stamp ever.

It out lived:
VHS and Beta Max Tapes
Reel to reel and Cassette Tapes
Vinyl Records
Paton Place, Dark shadows, The Walton's and many more TV shows.
Tube Radio and TV
The stamp have seen generations come and go.
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Edited by ikuna - 03/07/2021 09:45 am
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Posted 03/07/2021   10:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the Norwegian Posthorn beats it easily and the British Postage Due of 1914 - 1971 also beats it.
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Posted 03/07/2021   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Okay. Thanks guys.
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