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This Is Nice, Take A Look - Counterfeit Great Britain Stamps Detected

 
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Posted 03/11/2021   07:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add kohinoor to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everyone!

This is pretty cool.



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Posted 03/11/2021   11:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool!
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Posted 03/11/2021   12:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice. A close-up pic of one of the stamps would be great.
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Posted 03/11/2021   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldboldandbrash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Surcharged due to washed stamp? What would be an example of a washed stamp? Postmark wiped off? This counterfeit is hilarious and amazing by the way, thank you!
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Posted 03/11/2021   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice.

There are quite a few around. The most recent forgery has higher letters in the iridescent overprint and, consequently, fewer lines. These are being used quite a lot.
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Posted 03/11/2021   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Highly collectible!
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Posted 03/11/2021   2:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting find. I would read "washed" as cleaned, attempted removal of cancellation.
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Posted 03/12/2021   03:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kohinoor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sure, here are better pics.

One picture with upper stamp and more close examination of lower stamp.




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Posted 03/12/2021   03:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kohinoor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Forging todays stamps for postage delivery use?
This is something I wouldnt even thought actually is happening.

I remember my grandfather had bunch of old postal stamping stamps to put cancel stamp on stamps.

That was one of his top jewels in his collection.


I was thinking, where all stamp dies and old stamp preses goes?
To museum or they are destroyed?

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Posted 03/12/2021   05:28 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think that forging Machins has been relatively widespread - this one would cost 1.29 if bought from a post office, so presumably there's a ready profit to be made from the practice.
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Posted 03/12/2021   06:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Royal Mail sells many of its stamps through retailers. They get a small discount when they buy in numbers. Forgers use this to sell forged sheets and booklets at a deeper discount to unsuspecting retailers. Yours appears to be a little older forgery. If you look at the head, it lacks the iridescent overprint.

This is what a real one - from the sheet - should look like. It is the older Royal Mail Red 1 colour. Yours is a Royal Mail Red 2 colour. The hidden year code "M14L" is in the third line above the e of "Large."

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Posted 03/12/2021   06:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a sampling of discussions on forgeries of recent US postage:
http://goscf.com/t/47260
http://goscf.com/t/68302
http://goscf.com/t/54496
These have been sold in bulk at a sizeable discount, on eBay often enough.
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Posted 03/12/2021   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting the close-up pics.

Even though the details are pretty ineffective, this was done by an organization with enough resources to attempt including all of the security features.

I wonder how many of these have passed through the system unnoticed.
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Posted 03/12/2021   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kudos to Royal Mail for detecting this. The USPS does virtually nothing about Forever stamp fakes and then whines about losing money.
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