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So Who's Afraid Of The Indian States?

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Posted 03/03/2020   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Panna state Court fee documents:
These are KM Type 10 ,2 & 4 annas,1943-..
Maharaja:
Col. HH Maharaja Sir Yadvendra Singh Judeo Bahadur, K.C.S.I., K.C.I.E. (31 January 1893 - 4 August 1963) was the 13th Maharaja of Panna State from years 1902 - 1947 and official Maharaja of Panna from 1947 till his death in 1963

Panna region is well known for it's diamond déposits.The only ones in Asia.











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The stamp is indeed Kochchi 1944 6P Sc O59.

The type q ovpt. is also depicted in Scotts in the subsequent surcharged Kochchi 1944 Keralavarma VI official stamps in which G is what it should be.




The same ovpt. is type O10 in SG.



ok, now I am totally confused.... there is no reference to this overprint style for O58-O62. If not listed specifically and called out, I though the methodology was to use the picture right above the listing, not below it.
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You are not getting it.

Type q ovpt. was used on Kochchi 1944 Sc O58-O62 and also on surcharged 1944 Sc O67-O69.

The image in Scott below Sc O62 is intended to illustrate the surcharge type, not the Sc O58-O62 On C G S ovpt. type.

But for some reason best known to Scott, the G in the image above Sc O58 differs with the G in the image below Sc O62 even though the ovpt. is the same type q.
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But for some reason best known to Scott, the G in the image above Sc O58 differs with the G in the image below Sc O62 even though the ovpt. is the same type q.


Thats what I was trying to figure out exactly..... Why the overprint in the picture(above O58) does not match the stamp.
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Can anyone help with this one? I have no idea what it is? Cut from a cover? Jind?? Tks


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Jhind State (Feudatory State)
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So are these to be considered the same color? Im working w/ Scott Catalogue which calls for O36, 3pies, slate color, Wmk 39. BUT these are all Wmk 196. Perf is 14 x 14


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Jhind State


Tks Rod
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These Jind State Service stamps are 036. They are Under the heading stamps of 1927-32; which are wmk 196.
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So are these to be considered the same color? Im working w/ Scott Catalogue which calls for O36, 3pies, slate color, Wmk 39. BUT these are all Wmk 196.


Correct. (Jhind Convention State)
TIP: With India always try and supply Scott "Type" in this case A46
Wmk 196 is correct
Scott failure to insert, however it is by their information, we can see it is Wmk 196, by their advice
"India stamps of 1926-1935" the corollory follows that they must be Wmk 196

From memory, my KGV 3 pies do come in grey and slate
I'll need to consult my Gibbons to confirm.

Your Jhind (Feudatory State) from Tony Mac 2014
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Tks perf12 and rodd- for the Tony Mac too.... I can't seem to follow this Scott listings. Where do you see "India Stamps of 1926-1935" ? I see "Types of 1911-26 Issues", 1926-36, no.'s 106-125 and 1927-32, O36-O48...




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Watch out...it will bite you

I see where you are getting confused, India 1926-36 front of India
includes the "small die Sc#49"

In the Jhind set, this is excluded, so Scott in their wisdom, reads 1926-1935
(The 1936 stamp excluded)
Makes sense?


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Hey rodd- Tks for the clarification. Sorry for all this confusion - I guess where I'm not making the connection is in the jind listing I do see "India Stamps of 1926-35 Overprintd - c" but I think where I am getting lost is I expect to see somewhere in the India section that heading and here is it pointing to No's 106-125, 1926-36. I guess the way my brain works is that if it's listed in the front and is referenced, I expect to see the exact heading so a match can be made while then seeing a note that the 1936 is excluded in jind section... Hope I am making sense here.

If I understand you correctly, because they have excluded the 111a small die and being the only 1936, they changed the listing to read up to 1935 in jind section....
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That's right S4L,
youv'e got it.
I came from Stanley Gibbons referencing, which was a nightmare,
Scott was a breath of fresh air, but it does have it's faults.
Turkey was one area of confusion.

This is a small hiccup, and as you get more aufait with Scott, it will fall into place.

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Tks again rod. Just when I thought I was slipping into the abyss..... It just wasn't clicking. Can't remember, indore or chamba, it just want making sense and I called AMOS to ask a question on a listing - even the new guy taking over that section couldn't explain what was in the catalogue.
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