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Time For Another Fun Game Of "Why Did I Bid On This Lot?"

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Posted 04/10/2021   12:45 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add revenuecollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Come on down! It's time to play another fun game of "why the heck did you buy this mess?!!".

These threads have been fun and informational in the past, seeing everyone's perspectives and opinions and how they vary.

I'm going to request that that the revenue specialists/experts here please refrain from replying immediately so some of the non-revenue collectors can post their opinions, and then I'll open it up to the revenue specialists before I reveal my personal thoughts.

This lot is en route, so I've not had a chance yet to determine the extent to which the lot proved fruitful or not.

It is an eBay auction lot from noblespirit, one of the "shovelware" dealers on eBay (I include them, nystamps, pavstamps, ckstamps, stampsweis, and anthonys in the same category). No philatelic description at all, just a huge dump of images. IMO, the listings could be beanie babies, marbles, or matchbox cars, for all the vetting and philatelic acumen these sellers bring to the table. I don't ever trust any of their listings for individual stamps, as they frequently misidentify stamps and omit faults from the description. The ONLY things they're good for IMO are treasure hunt bulk lots... and misidentified single stamps that are in your favor.

But I digress...

There were 24 bids from 9 different bidders, and after sales tax and shipping, it cost me $363.


1. What general aspects or specific items do you think I homed in on to make my bid?

2. What items would you have found personally interesting or would have factored into your decision?

3. Would you have bid as much? More? Less? What aspects of the lot determined that decision?

Let's see what people come up with... I fully expect others to come up with items of interest outside of the ones I homed in on, just because there's a relatively wide variety of items in this lot and the range of fiscal collecting that's possible.
















































































































































































































































































































































































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Posted 04/10/2021   1:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Avoiding the revenue stamps here are a half dozen real observations:

Tasco educational booklets are always fun.
The 4 hours late slogan cancel is good.
The normal postage stamp as a revenue usage is nice.
The $15,000 cancelled check from Klein to Robey is unique.
Ducky Cinderella makes me sit up and quack.
Of course albums are included.
And with zero value but fun, the running chicken fly ad.
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Posted 04/10/2021   1:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That $10 CSA note would definitely interest paper money collectors. Looks like it might be a back proof. Completely out of place in this collection.
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Posted 04/10/2021   2:08 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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That $10 CSA note would definitely interest paper money collectors. Looks like it might be a back proof.


Good catch. I didn't look at that very closely; I just assumed it was the back or cutout from a certificate or bond of some sort. The danger with CSA material is that so much of it has been reprinted or facsimiles made over the years. No guarantee that it's genuine.
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Posted 04/10/2021   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lots of pictures......If you have any regrets the first thing that occurs to me is that the catalogue value per pound could be on the low side? My impression without digging too deep.
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That's the thing about both fiscal and postal history: the value can frequently have little correlation to the catalogue value of the stamps themselves off cover/document.

For example, the U.S. half-cent postage dues (Scott #s J68, J69, J79) are all low-value used stamps, cataloguing $0.25, $1.90 and $0.25 respectively. However, any of them on card/cover either solo use or part of a fractional rate are immediately a $20-100 real-world market value. There's no relationship between the stamps' catalog values and the values on cover. Unlike other stamp types, for some reason the Scott Specialized Catalogue does not list any on-cover values for postage due stamps.
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Posted 04/10/2021   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott does list some postage due on cover values. Can you guess which ones?
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Posted 04/10/2021   3:59 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, yeah, yeah... I know. But not the REAL postage due stamps.
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Posted 04/10/2021   4:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eligies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not a deep revenue collector but this lot struck me for it's variety, condition, quantity and overall uniqueness. (not in the singularity meaning of specific items). There is a pleather of history and I think I might have been teased into a purchase if I did auctions or eBay sales.
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I know almost nothing about revenues. I do know from reading your previous postings that you like fine printing from the 19th and early 20th centuries. So I suspect that some of the stock certificates and fancy checks had some appeal for you. I am always willing to bid on a box of "junk" if I can get it cheap enough because I will enjoy finding the unexpected. This lot would have been out of my price range. As I said above I don't know enough about the area to spend real money. I think some of the stocks and checks are beautiful, I saw the Tasco booklets, and the patriotic postcards. I noted the beer stamps and know some of them can command good prices. A few things would have had some local appeal to me as they are from places I know. I was also really taken by the ad for the "perfect fly trap". I am sure you did well. But if the value lies in out of period or illegal usages I would not see it. I look forward to your explanation. Maybe I will learn something.
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Posted 04/10/2021   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What do you expect revenuecollector, I am not a REAL philatelist.


However revenuecollector, you were spot on as this tied solo J79 sold earlier this evening for $29.99 with free shipping on 'Bay. While it is a nice cover philatelically, I just love the recipient's name, Miss Bonita Rainwater. She was 17 when she received this. Born, raised, married, raised a family and died (2015)at age 90 all in Little Rock, Arkansas.

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Posted 04/10/2021   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The regular issue 3c Washington might have a grill.
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Posted 04/10/2021   4:37 pm  Show Profile Check ericjackson's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ericjackson to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One item I find interesting is the Consolidated Decalomania Stamps card. I would like to know if there is anything on the other side. I am pretty certain that this company was a printer of state revenue decals that were used on alcohol and tobacco products.

But while this item is a neat curiosity, it isn't the reason Dan bought the lot. I am 99.9% certain what that item is, but it is Dan's place to reveal that when he is ready. But it is a neat item.
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Posted 04/10/2021   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One thing that frustrates me is that Canadian Revenue stamps only come in 'Uncancelled' or 'Used' in the van Dam catalogue. I have 39 stock certificates with a wide range of revenue and Ontario Stock Transfer Tax Stamps. The used cataloge value is over $7700. There is no 'on paper' price and apparently not much demand, so Erling van Dam tells me himself. I will hang on to these becsause I know they are seldom seen. And yes, those are staples through many of them. I don't see any rust on them and hope to keep it that way.

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I know just enough about revenue material to hurt myself. That being said I like this lot and think that you did well Dan based upon quantity, overall condition, variety of material and the apparent care the owner took with it. From the Consular Service Fee stamps (I see a possible RK13, cv=$500) to the Revenue paper and everything in between it looks like a party in a box. I also like the distilled spirits items w/coupons. Lots to chew on here. Lets hear from the revenue experts and see which item is likely to create the most saliva to flow.
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Posted 04/10/2021   8:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Although you probably got enough material to make the price worth it, I really didn't see anything all that exciting. There are a few nicer things, but I saw nothing that catalogs more than $50, and very few of those (none of the RK's appear to be good perf varieties.
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