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Posted 04/11/2021   9:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add BakerJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all! This 147 I found has something going on with the inking. If you look at the "3" at the bottom, it looks to have a major shadow when compared to other 147. At the top in U.S. POSTAGE, you can see the ink in the letters. I don't know enough about this to determine what it would be. To the experts out there, what would you call it? I thank you in advance. Your assistance is always appreciated.



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Posted 04/11/2021   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi BakerJ,

This looks like a wet printing to me. The paper was normally dampened before printing, but in this case it looks like it was too damp.
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Posted 04/12/2021   09:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i agree, wet printing but the plate also appears worn annd that would also affect the ink.
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Posted 04/12/2021   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BakerJ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your help.
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Posted 04/12/2021   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a very wet paper print example:


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Posted 04/12/2021   9:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The block really looks like a very poorly wiped plate, rather then the paper being too wet.
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Posted 04/13/2021   01:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now I will add, there may also be a bit of solvent ink weakening as well on the 147 in the OP. But regarding the block I posted above:

"Type 54: Known as wet printing, the paper was too water saturated when the intaglio plate applied the ink (Scott 543)."

The above from: https://www.efocc.org/Resources/Hot...AA_Cover.php written by John Hotchner in 2000 after years (since 1979) of consulting and input by many EFO experts, including the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP).

For contrast, "Type 53: Inadequately wetted down paper prior to intaglio printing left this stamp with a light impression from inadequately adhering ink (Scott 565).

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Posted 04/13/2021   07:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My main experience with "wet" printings is from about 50 years before this issue, but I have never seen stamps so wet that the ink completely covers all of the margins. To me all the ink lines in the margins appear to be a bade wipe job.
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Posted 04/13/2021   08:04 am  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Regarding the 1c Washington block, it may be a wet printing, but is definitely a poorly wiped plate, as the diagonal streaks from wiping are clearly present.
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Posted 04/13/2021   08:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
block is definitely a fine example of improper wiping. the 565 is the worst printed copy I have seen, and I wonder why it was allowed out.
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Posted 04/13/2021   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Returning to the OP question about a Banknote issue:

What makes you think it is a 147?
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Posted 04/13/2021   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It does not have the secret mark but it does have hard paper perfs.
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