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Unlisted Vertical Pair, Imperf. Between Of R36c?

 
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Posted 05/08/2021   8:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add James Drummond to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here's what appears to be a vertical pair of R36c, but imperf. horizontally between.

No trace of horizontal perforations between the two stamps, as far as I can tell.

I guess that I should probably get a certificate for this, if I ever want it listed in Scott.

What do you think?

Closeups of the front and back are below.

Jim



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Posted 05/08/2021   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would be suspicious of the horizontal perfs.
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Posted 05/09/2021   02:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Which is why to this:


Quote:
I guess that I should probably get a certificate for this....


I say, "Yes."

If good, it is a nice find ; if not considered imperforate, it is still eye catching.
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Posted 05/09/2021   09:20 am  Show Profile Check 1typesetter's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would send it in. Looks like the only option for a fake would be reperfed on the 4 sides but doesn't look it to me.
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Posted 05/09/2021   10:22 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I would send it in. Looks like the only option for a fake would be reperfed on the 4 sides but doesn't look it to me.


Two options actually: R36a reperfed on 4 sides or R36b reperfed on 2 sides.

However, the cancel is indicative of a late-state type, which makes it unlikely to be either.

Does it perf out?

It reminds me of an item that NobleSpirit offered:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/294152328787






However the shortness of the top and bottom margins in this instance immediately scream "REPERF!" whereas the margins in Jim's example are more believable.

Regardless, I would get a PF cert, and even then it would presumably be an EFO like the other imperf-between error listings.
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Posted 05/09/2021   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Extremely unlikely to be a reperfed imperf; no one would reperf it that much off center. But a part perf pair would be a different story. I agree that it should be sent to the PF.
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Posted 05/09/2021   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Noble Spirit item is VERY suspicious looking to me. I don't like those perfs at all.
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Posted 05/09/2021   8:55 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Extremely unlikely to be a reperfed imperf; no one would reperf it that much off center"

Huh? If the imperf was off center then the reperf would be off center too.
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Posted 05/09/2021   9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The ten cent inland exchange imperf pair cats $1750. A part perf pair cats $15. Assuming that it's a fake, which do YOU think it is likely to have been made from? In any case, an imperf pair must have wide vertical margins in order to get a cert. A pair this much off center would always be thought of as a part perf that has been trimmed.
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imo a par4t perf that has been altered by reperfing. to my eye the right side perfs appear to slant from top to bottom and do not appear to match the left ones.
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Posted 05/10/2021   7:31 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was responding to the "no one would reperf it that much off center" art of your comment.
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Posted 05/10/2021   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And I explained why that would never occur. No one would do this to a genuine imperf pair, and a badly centered pair would be considered a part perf that was trimmed. If it's fake it was created from a part perf.
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Posted 05/10/2021   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If it's fake it was created from a part perf.


To answer the questions regarding possible reperfing, please check lot 2151 in the 1991 Joyce sale.

I sure don't see the "trace of a couple blind perfs."

Jim
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Posted 05/10/2021   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have this item in front of me, and it is impossible to tell for certain from a scan.
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Posted 05/11/2021   08:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There might be a trace of a blind perf under the G of exchange, but it would still really have to be seen in person.
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