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Kind Of Seems Like A Lot To Pay For A Fake Revenue Overprint (R158A)

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Posted 06/13/2021   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tail light guarantee.
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Posted 06/13/2021   6:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it is.
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Tail light guarantee.


What does that mean, please?

If fake, I would have thought the current high bidder at $500
would have a deeper knowledge of these
Are peoples disposable incomes so high, to bid on a hunch / trust?

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Edited by rod222 - 06/13/2021 6:16 pm
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What does the "H" stand for in the title?
I could not see it mention in NY stamps glossary.

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Hinged. If it was genuine it might matter, but it's a rather obvious fake. Letters too thin and too pale, stamp shade incorrect for the genuine provisional.
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Hinged.


I thought so, I find it blindingly deceitful, how vendors offer a used stamp and quote Mint unhinged prices.

I am presuming the $12,500 is the price for a fresh mint stamp.

How these companies get away with continual irregularities beats me.
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Posted 06/13/2021   7:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's the same cat, mint or used. It's really quite a scarce stamp.
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"As is" seems to be a euphemism for "it's damaged and very likely fake, but go ahead and buy it if you want it".
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nystamp bidders are a different breed… (I say this as one myself, but I only bid on the cheap stuff I swear!)
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Posted 06/13/2021   8:05 pm  Show Profile Check ericjackson's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ericjackson to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is an insane price to pay for an obvious fake. The stamp has no chance of being genuine.
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This one, listed as a R158a reproduction (see the printing dots) sold 10 days earlier for $41.98 by lotsastamps with 3 bidders. The copy in the OP had 8 bidders.


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I am presuming the $12,500 is the price for a fresh mint stamp.


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It's the same cat, mint or used. It's really quite a scarce stamp.


Regarding 2021 Scott Catalog, R158a mint is $15,000 and used just $12,500 with both prices for just F-VF.
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So a $12,000 stamp with no cert starts at one penny...….. Whoever "won" it deserves it. Sorry.
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Same seller has several state revenues listed with bogus cat values. This is not unusual at all for them.

Correct cat numbers, but fantasy valuations.

SC BL47 Mint; cat $10; eBay lot lists $40
PA ST8 Used (actually ST27); cat $17.50; eBay lot lists $90

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Posted 06/13/2021   10:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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So a $12,000 stamp with no cert starts at one penny.


So what should the start bid have been? $40 seems good since the reproduction brought that amount, right? It does look better than the reproduction copy.


@StateRevs, there are many thread about the seller:

https://www.stampcommunity.org/topi...PIC_ID=46609

http://goscf.com/t/9423

http://goscf.com/t/51822

For more just do a search on "NYStamps" and get 10 pages of returns.


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The start bid can be a penny. The point is that if somebody thinks that a $12,000 stamp is on eBay with no cert and a penny opens it and it is actually genuine they have been drinking too much grain alcohol while inhaling paint thinner fumes. IMHO
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