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Something Fishy With These Deeply Discounted Forever Stamps

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Posted 06/26/2021   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I did not take the comment as being about reused stamps but rather "face" postage. My bad if I misunderstood. That being said I seriously doubt that the scope of reusing uncancelled stamps comes close to approaching the copious amounts of counterfeit Forever postage being manufactured and peddled. Do you? I do not see bulk lots and rolls of reused/uncancelled postage for sale on eBay. Do you? A link to such a lot would be helpful.

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What does reused uncancelled postage have to do with this topic?
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Posted 06/26/2021   10:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The PO loses exactly the same amount of money on a reused stamp as it does on a counterfeit stamp.



Interesting statistic, do you have reference source for that statement?

Now if you are implying that free carriage, thus financial loss, of mail is the same if reused or counterfeit stamps are used; specifically neither produces any revenue, then you are not addressing the volume of reused stamped mail verses the volume of counterfeit stamped mail. Volume is needed to understand the cumulative losses of each.

It really sounds like you are trying to minimize the losses due to counterfeiting with your reuse comment. Also as most of these counterfeits are likely to pass uncancelled, they have a higher likelihood of reuse as well.
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Posted 06/26/2021   10:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly
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Posted 06/27/2021   08:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 06/27/2021   08:42 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I took it to mean that whether a given letter/parcel has reused postage or counterfeit postage affixed, the loss to USPS for that item is the same. I didn't take it as a statement as to which was more prevalent or caused greater loss to the USPS in aggregate.

In both cases the USPS is providing service for that item but receiving no revenue for it.
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Posted 06/27/2021   10:38 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Parcel & Rog - Revenue has it correct - all I was saying is for each such stamp used the loss is the same. I wasnot talking about the volume of reused stamps and the volume of counterfeits. I do agree the volume of counterfeits is bigger than the volume of reuses currently. The interesting thong is around 25? years ago the PO shut down a number of mixture sellers because of reuse of uncancelled stamps, but now they are ignoring the counterfeits even though they are far more visible and significant in volume.
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Posted 06/27/2021   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


"What does reused uncancelled postage have to do with this topic?"
Sorry if you think I Hy-jacked your post.

Same race, different pony.

Crooks are crooks. They adapt to whatever new technology that is available.

Using the way-back machine (search function), these discussions go back to almost the dawn of this blog. Counterfeit postage / reusing uncancelled postage and the legality of such

At the start of "Stamps" in Victorian England, they were washing penny blacks to reuse them, and the state had to figure out ways to counter them. It's been going on ever since.

In the end, it's all the same crime.
Pat


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I recall back in the 69-70 era when we lived in Brooklyn, NY that a dealer offered 100 stamped envelopes (current definitives) for well under face. I assumed these were reused postage.
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