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Bavaria, 1849-1862, MI NR 2 I And 2 II (Sc 2): Need Help Distinguishing Plates.

 
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Posted 06/29/2021   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add EMaxim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
My copy of Deutschland-Spezial lists five different printing plates: one for the first issue of this blue 3 Kreuzer (1849), the others for the 1850-62 issues. Michel provides photos illustrating their distinguishing features, along with a verbal description of each photo. My German is pretty good, but for the life of me I cannot match the verbal descriptions to the photos, nor understand exactly where to look in the latter. For example, the "Randlinien" constitute the key feature distinguishing the plates. But which "border lines" are meant? Here's a scan of the page. Can anyone help?




I have a similar problem with the 6 Kreuzer of 1850-62 (MiNr 4II; SC 5). Again photos are provided, together with text telling me that the three plates are distinguished by the corners of the "šussere Einfassungslinie." But again I can't tell which "Lines" are meant. See second scan below.


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Posted 06/30/2021   09:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have these stamps yet and I have no expertise.
Juergen Kraft presents excellent information for identifying the 3 Kr plates: www.stampsx.com/forum/topic.php?id=2259&
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Thank you, Cupram. I was hoping to hear from you. I will visit that site immediately.

Excellent! Provides exactly the helpful guidance that I need. Vielen Dank, Cupram!

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EMaxim, the link cupram provided has a lot of good information. Michel is fairly useless for identification of the stamps in this series. Another excellent source is this book, available through the APRL library:

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Posted 06/30/2021   11:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Germania. Nice to know that the trouble I was having isn't entirely my fault. Michel does mention the Sem book. I'll consult it as well.
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Well, nice to know that the trouble I was having isn't entirely my fault. I did see that the Peter Sem book is mentioned in the Spezial, which recommends consulting it. Glad it's available at the APRL. Where would I be without you guys?"


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Posted 07/09/2021   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Also a plate 6 does exist. Plate 2 also divided in a, b and c.

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Edited by hornet785 - 07/09/2021 5:39 pm
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