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Spanish Morocco, Melilla City Around Year 1900

 
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Posted 07/20/2021   10:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jossanders52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Does any member have information on below stamps. They are from Spanish Morocco, Melilla. I guess it are stamps used on military mail. Any info on Edifil number, value, and any other info please...
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Posted 07/20/2021   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 07/20/2021   11:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
22 crows,
thanks a lot for the link. Very interesting!!!!
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Posted 07/20/2021   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello.
Here you have all the information ..... in Spanish.
http://sanfilatelio.afinet.org/bibl...la/index.htm
Regards.

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Posted 07/20/2021   11:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I was late
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Posted 07/20/2021   3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jos,

Melilla on SCF..........
http://goscf.com/t/22401 br /
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Posted 07/20/2021   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those stamps in the O/P look like they are for sale on eBay from someone in England .
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Posted 07/20/2021   9:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I already put an offer in.
They look very interesting and now I understand better what I these stamps are.
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Posted 08/08/2021   02:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am happy the seller of the stamps in the start of the thread rejected my low ball offer.
I now received a copy of the "Unified Specialized Catalog Volume 5, Edifil Madrid 2011, pages 71-77" on all Military Franchise issues.
All the stamps shown in the start of the thread sell between Euro 0.60 and Euro 1.10. This made my lowball offer still 2 times the catalog value. Melilla Military Franchise stamps are offered on eBay between $1 and $15 per stamps, so the sellers clearly do not know or do not care about the catalog values. However I was able in the past weeks to secure 100 stamps from 6 different sellers located all in Spain for just over catalog value.
This low price makes it fun to collect these stamps and study the history around those stamps.
There are arguments that the issue of these stamps was never properly authorized with some claiming it are bogus stamps. However Edifil lists them without any note about bogus possibility. If you go to the beginning of this thread to the post of 22crows, there is a lot of info on these stamps including real fake stamps (fakes of bogus stamps?) of the first series and fake cancellations.
I did not yet receive all the stamps I bought but below is the first of the 8 pages write up I am making on those stamps.



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Posted 08/08/2021   07:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting subject and nice page .......hope you continue it and show us how it developes.
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Posted 09/11/2021   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My collection of Melilla Military (Ejercito) stamps is nearing completion.
More scans will be loaded later



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Posted 10/05/2021   04:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These Melilla stamps are quite difficult to collect. Because a sheet has 6 or 8 different panes of stamps, seperated by gutters, there are so many possible gutter variations.
Stamps below are from the 3rd Corps, perforated and imperforate.
The color shades in the first scan are still mixed up, will correct when I can find additional stamps.

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Posted 10/23/2021   02:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The hunters and Cavalry regiments. THis is a continuation from the previous posts.
This set in carmine color has 8 different stamps, all shown in the picture below.
The stamps are printed in sheets with 8 panes of 20 stamps, each pane a different stamps. There are horizontal and vertical gutters in between the panes.
There are 3 different setting were the panes have different positions in the sheets. There are imperforated and perforated stamps. Also there are stamps with gum and without gum.
Above makes a lot of listings in the Edifil catalogue. There are 8 basic stamps listed plus some 75 additional different gutter pair combinations


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