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Spanish Morocco And Tangier, Revenue Related Stamps

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Posted 07/31/2021   01:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jossanders52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I do not have a lot of success expanding my Spanish Morocco revenue stamp collection. They are seldom for sale.
However the next best thing is collecting revenue stamps overprinted and or surcharged for postal use.
TANGIER, although Tangier was not part of Spanish Morocco, it was located inside the Spanish Protectorate.


Spanish Morocco revenues overprinted for postal use


Spanish revenues overprinted for use in Spanish Morocco, postal giro and telegraph use


When I buy stamps on eBay I will always look at the other items the seller use in order to try to minimize shipping costs.. Below is a Pro-tuberculosos set of 1953, nothing to do with what I collect, but looks very interesting

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Posted 10/09/2021   06:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jos,
I found this in a packet of odds and ends you sent me.
This could be quite RARE, needs confirmation.

If you need it back, let me know,
would be delighted if it fits in with your collection.

SPANISH MOROCCO
Telegraph
HALF USED stamp? on mutilated stationery piece, Pmkd TETUAN 1920
Byrum T19 see comments below.

Only ID I could find was BYRUM
You may have better Literature.
PS: Byrum does not show any T6 stamp images.
PPS what are the to letters preceding Marruecos
Cheers
Rod

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Posted 10/09/2021   06:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

No idea about telegraph stamps and I also not collect them.
No need to sent it back.

Maybe other members can help you with this stamp.
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Per the Barefoot Catalogue "Telegraph Stamps of the World" (2013), which updates the long out-of-date Hiscock's "Telegraph & Telephone Stamps of the World" (1982), this is Barefoot #13a 30c lilac overprinted horizontally in blue, bisected on piece. Catalog value 20 UKP as such.
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Posted 10/09/2021   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

Looking at the half stamp on piece, it is not stationary, but I believe, its a piece of telegram.
Inside the Tetuan cancellation is I think a signature.
This stamp came in an eBay lot of which 2 Giro stamps , cancelled Larache 1921 are shown in my post above yours.
I paid $3 for the lot of 3 stamps.
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Posted 10/09/2021   08:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thank you gentlemen !
That was exciting whilst it lasted.


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Per the Barefoot Catalogue "Telegraph Stamps of the World" (2013), which updates the long out-of-date Hiscock's "Telegraph & Telephone Stamps of the World" (1982), this is Barefoot #13a 30c lilac overprinted horizontally in blue, bisected on piece. Catalog value 20 UKP as such.


Fabulous information
Shall save on my Album Page.

Not sure when Byrum created his catalogue, assume around 1950's

BAREFOOT
"This new catalogue lists telegraph and telephone stamps of the whole world, by country. It is the successor to the old Hiscocks catalogue of 1982. It lists all regular stamps, both those issued by national post offices and those produced by private companies (but does not include prepaid stationery for telegrams, nor telegram seals). It does include telephone stamps, e.g. those of Canada, Great Britain, India-Patiala, Belgium, France etc. In the catalogue, virtually all items are illustrated in full colour, some sections much expanded since Hiscocks, with up-to-date pricing for mint and for used."--Publisher description.

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Edited by rod222 - 10/09/2021 08:59 am
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UPDATE

This link appears to have the bisect at AUD $93 (50)
(Not saying my example is of the best example)
Hiscocks #12a

Note: This link does not show, or mention, bottom half of bisect.

https://gb-precancels.org/Telegraph...d/Moroc.html
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Edited by rod222 - 10/09/2021 09:10 am
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Posted 10/09/2021   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jos,
my opinion is the piece is postally used, not telegram
(Machine cancellation)
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Posted 10/09/2021   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sent my example to Webmaster for opinion.


Heartening to get an immediate response from webmaster
Thanks Jos for the item,
Has gone to further Philatelic Knowledge

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Edited by rod222 - 10/09/2021 8:58 pm
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Posted 10/09/2021   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
EN Marruecos = IN Marruecos
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Posted 11/19/2021   12:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just acquired the stamps below on eBay total costs $0.12 plus $2 shipping. There seems to be no correlation with the catalog value
Tanger - Beneficiencia - Edifil 35/40 y 41/46 - Usado - Catalogo 240,00
This are 2 sets, can be found listed on eBay between $8-$50
Huerfanos de telegrafos Espana, Tanger Office.

Huerfanos means Orphans. So these stamps seem to be for the benefit of orphans of telegraph workers. I do not have the Edifil catalog.

Questions, were these stamps supposed to be used on telegraph forms?
What is the issuing date? Any other info welcome

Thanks



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Posted 11/19/2021   03:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jos,
Charity stamps for the benefit of Telegraph Employees.

Exist:
Overprinted MELILLA and CUETA

Beneficiencia
Not Listed in my EDIFIL
Perhaps Phantasies?

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Edited by rod222 - 11/19/2021 03:26 am
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Posted 11/19/2021   03:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
according some eBay listing
Tanger - Beneficiencia - Edifil 35/40 y 41/46 - Usado - Catalogo 240,00

sure that Edifil does not list Phantasies

Beneficiencia = charity
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Posted 11/19/2021   03:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can you offer a link to that eBay listing.
Working blind is difficult.

I have come across numerous Spanish Charity stamps/seals
they abound on the internet.
I have always seen advertised as Charity.

Some examples from my lot.
Note : Apologies, the Melilla and Ceuta were Opts on a differing label

Perhaps mentioned / listed in GALVEZ?





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Edited by rod222 - 11/19/2021 03:54 am
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Posted 11/19/2021   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

One of the current eBay listings
https://www.ebay.com/itm/273024797232
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Posted 11/19/2021   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Jos.

What that demands, is we see the suggested EDEFIL listing in black and white.
Personally, I think that is crazy, they are charity stamps,
never seen them listed in World Telegraph stamps.

I shall entertain an open mind, as I have been incorrect before,
but gee ...240 euros

I'll check my database, I think I have seen a set with MUESTRA sell for $50.

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Edited by rod222 - 11/19/2021 11:18 pm
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