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Scott 220 Paper Variant?

 
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Posted 08/13/2021   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rafmal to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey @ All...
i have these 4 stamps , I think its a Scott 220 normal , without Caps. no Triangles
on the 1 stamp the paper is very different , its very white and I cant find anything on the paper.
can someone tell me more about this .
have a look at the photo
thank you



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Posted 08/13/2021   2:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rafmal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
great thanks to all of you
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Posted 08/13/2021   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GMC89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My Scott Specialized list no varieties of issue 220. (Older issue)
From the picture you submitted it appears you have a cleaned copy, perhaps bleach and detergent. Bleach is a excellent cleaner of clothes but it tends to whiten stamps. Sometimes significantly. If you wait awhile many forum users at work or otherwise busy might respond. Remember," patience is a virtue"
Regards m
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Posted 08/13/2021   3:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The others appear to be stained or toned to varying degrees. If reddish, be aware that the ink can often run to varying degrees when these stamps are soaked in water.

With the bright white one, there is the possibility that the stamp was dipped in household bleach or peroxide. Using either of the latter chemicals can/will make the paper weaker and even brittle. Comparison with the stamp with oval target cancel might be useful. That one, less the staining/foxing, seems to have more the look of a typical used stamp of this issue from what I can tell.

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Edited by hy-brasil - 08/13/2021 3:28 pm
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Posted 08/14/2021   04:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rafmal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi guys and thanks @ hy-brasil/GMC89 . what you'll say , makes sense but on the other hand im looking at the cancellation mark on the stamp and it looks very strong also the back , one can see the imbedded print of the flat plate print and there are no loose strands around the perforation , also I would think that if it was bleached there would be some kind of run off of the ink on the back. I have compared it to other stamps , it is very similar to a #248 . have a look.
thank you

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Posted 08/14/2021   05:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Part of our problem is with scans in general and how they appear on monitors. If it compares that well with your 248, then it is just normal paper.


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I would think that if it was bleached there would be some kind of run off of the ink on the back.

Not necessarily. It depends on the ink and maybe when in its life it was bleached.
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Posted 08/14/2021   08:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rafmal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you @ hy-brasil .. but I'm still not satisfied as when I look at the other 220 I have the paper is much thicker and is dark , more on the brown side. I have not measured the paper thickness (no gauge#129335;#8205;#9794;#65039;) but it feels ..thicker.
and I'm satisfied with your answer just still think there's something wrong with the paper. but thank you very much#128077; both of you. IL hang on to it
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Posted 08/14/2021   08:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GMC89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rafmal, recently at auction there was a collection of Scott 220s. I think it was like 1200 or more.
As I recall the description was "for the specialist, showing many different varieties " etc. etc. etc.
So of course I pulled out my Scott Specialized and did not see "many different varieties" . In my catelouge it states " printed by th the ABNC on stamp paper". It is a inexpensive issue, there being millions available.
Some are thin some are not. It appears to be normal 220, perhaps cleaned. To be precise the only varieties listed are with "caps" I.e. 220A etc. etc. etc. and you stated they are not on your issues.
Regards m

Edited for clarity on varieties
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Edited by GMC89 - 08/14/2021 08:51 am
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Posted 08/14/2021   09:44 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Used stamps have, by definition, gone through various environmental conditions including being soaked in God knows what. Given the resolution of the images in this post, no one can really make a definitive conclusion but logic and common sense dictate that the whiter stamp is not a paper variety.
Don
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Posted 08/14/2021   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rafmal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ GMC89 & 51studebaker thank you very much I couldn't find anything on the paper either. take care until I'm back again as I am going trough my collection
cheers
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