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Abstract Expressionists Stamp Sheet - 2009

 
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Posted 08/18/2021   4:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Marine Electric to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What can I expect to sell these for at a local dealer? I have a few of them and they're perfect. (4444 if that helps?)

Thanks!


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Posted 08/18/2021   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldboldandbrash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A dealer might pay 50% of face to then sell for 70%. You won't get face value from a dealer—there'd be no money in it for them. If you want top dollar sell them on eBay
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Posted 08/18/2021   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Marine Electric to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks OBB, you answered my question - the value I've seen these carry on eBay doesn't transfer over to the collector/local dealer.

But, why doesn't it?

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Posted 08/18/2021   7:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldboldandbrash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably because the people buying on eBay are purposefully searching out this stamp, maybe to fill out a hole in a collection. At a show, you would only find a happenstance buyer who just so happens to like the design— they probably weren't eagerly seeking the stamp, so dealers have to incentivize a sale by charging less than a stamp is literally worth (not hard for them to do because they probably are sitting on thousands of dollars in face value US postage). I bet that if you went to a show and a dealer had bought a stack of US at 50% face, they would sell it to you for 60% if you bought out the stock they bought.
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Posted 08/20/2021   2:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Marine Electric to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again OBB,

How does one bypass the local guy and go right to the 70 percent guy?


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Posted 08/20/2021   4:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
eBay (maybe)
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Posted 08/20/2021   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldboldandbrash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly, eBay maybe. However, don't forget about eBay's 12 something %, plus shipping. That's the big money loser shipping. If you charge 3$ for shipping any buyer will wince. You would essentially have to charge face with free shipping to get someone to actually buy it, and you would get your 70%.
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Posted 08/21/2021   06:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When you get 50 posts, you can sell them here. There are clubs and other forums like Stamporama that allows people to sell.
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Posted 08/21/2021   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Marine Electric to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OBB> these particular sheets are *selling* regularly on eBay for between $9 and $14 bucks a piece w/ shipping. Other sites are *asking* $18.95 w/shipping have reviews from many "satisfied buyers."

angore> will users here pay 70 percent of face?



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Posted 08/21/2021   10:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldboldandbrash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Alright can I ask why such eagerness to sell? Do you have like 500 of them? If you have like 10 just use them as postage and be on your way. Dealers make money through sheer scale, you wouldn't be able to do the same if you had oh two or something.
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Posted 08/21/2021   11:30 am  Show Profile Check paperhistory's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paperhistory to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect this sheet has a market on eBay to non-stamp collectors who enjoy art. It's definitely cheaper to buy this sheet than to buy a Jackson Pollock!

I haven't looked to see if there are dealers seeking this out as a premium issue. But even if it's selling on eBay (including shipping) at, say, $10, dealers are not going to be paying over face and probably not that (figure shipping, time, listing fees or inventory fees; it's just not worth it).
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Posted 08/21/2021   11:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldboldandbrash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps, but what non stamper is actually ever going to SEE a stamp on eBay? Especially considering how stamps are advertised: US Scott 4444 (the most evil number I could imagine for Chinese people) blah blah. Jackson Pollock wouldn't even be mentioned in edgewise. Maybe try etsy, there's more non stampers buying stamps from there because it's the new cool thing for hip millenials.
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Posted 08/21/2021   6:04 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This reminded me of just how much, aside from Pollock (I actually have that one on a poster in my hall), I loathe abstract expressionism, although I still prefer it to the pop art that followed.
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Posted 08/21/2021   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure Peggy Guggenheim did not appreciate Pollock's use of her fireplace as a latrine.
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Posted 02/04/2022   03:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Basecamp1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are most 2000 and later sheets selling for less than the postage face value? If so, is it ethical to sell the stamps to someone for franking? And, if so, where would you find buyers?
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Posted 02/04/2022   04:15 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ethics aren't involved. If you look at auctions, you'll see quantities of modern, mint stamps offered. Some will be bought for collections, many will be bought by those who sell on eBay to use for postage. I'd expect to pay about 50% of face value at auction plus buyer's premium for decimal GB stamps.
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