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What Does "App" Mean In A Stamp Description

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Posted 09/17/2021   3:02 pm  Show Profile Check rlsny's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add rlsny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I see it all the time and I have to finally admit I don't know what it means.

Typically it is after centering, like " VF (App) "

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Posted 09/17/2021   3:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 09/17/2021   3:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wshuwahere77 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could it be Appearance? I have seen that description before.
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Posted 09/17/2021   3:42 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It means that the stamp has that "appearance", but may have some faults (which hopefully are also included in the description). "App" or "appearance" is intended to inform the person reading the description that the stamp is not fault-free.
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Posted 09/17/2021   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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" VF (App) "


When I see "VF App" on eBay it usually means that if I take my glasses off and and look at the computer screen through a heavily finger-printed beer mug, I can't see the faults.
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Posted 09/17/2021   5:13 pm  Show Profile Check rlsny's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all. I wouldn't have guessed that and I'm betting there are plenty of novice collectors out there clueless as well.
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Posted 09/17/2021   5:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"VF Appearing." VF centering but with flaws.
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Posted 09/18/2021   06:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When I see a comment like "appears VF", alarm bells go off.
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Posted 09/18/2021   07:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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When I see a comment like "appears VF", alarm bells go off.


Yup, it is like adding the qualifier "but" to a description. But what you might ask.

The sushi appears to be fresh…the car appears to not have been in an accident…the document appears to be real…my wife appears to be happy….
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Posted 09/19/2021   07:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The other one is appears NH. I tend to not like dealers who use terms like that.
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Posted 09/19/2021   07:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
App = Approximately

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Posted 09/19/2021   09:42 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
no appears, not approx
approx means close to or roughly the same
appears means it looks like (vf or what ever) but really has some fault that isn't obvious
very different things
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Posted 09/19/2021   09:50 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps those sellers who use 'appears to be...' are those sellers who have been burned by buyers who claim 'Not as described'. An 'appears to be...' qualifier is less definitive.
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Posted 09/19/2021   10:27 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
or burned by their own poor descriptions
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Posted 09/19/2021   3:12 pm  Show Profile Check rlsny's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For some reason the vast majority of eBay sellers don't put any additional information about the stamp in the lot description. They cover themselves with code words like "unused" instead of saying "no gum" or "appears" instead of describing faults.

I'm a big user of the description. I'm not going to claim to be perfect, but I do try to list any and all faults explicitly. That doesn't always work either though; as a surprising number of buyers don't seem to ever read the description.

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