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What Do You Guys Make Of This "Waffle"

 
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Posted 09/25/2021   08:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jconey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm not an aficionado of cancels per se, but I've never seen one quite like this.

Is this a private security grill cancel/embosser like a office would use on documents?

A document protector like banks used for checks?




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Posted 09/25/2021   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jconey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've been looking for the device that made the impression but can't find one with the same pattern.
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Posted 09/25/2021   1:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jconey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I might have found something like it in my own archives... long forgotten box of stuff left over from my Dad's desk. At least its the same pattern. Most that I see online seem to be a staggered pattern. These were run across the amount on a check to prevent alteration.




It's similar, but this one is not really the same size as the one on the stamp.

This tool dates back to the 60's more than likely.

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Edited by jconey - 09/25/2021 5:22 pm
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Posted 09/25/2021   2:14 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are these, but they carry a risk of strawberries and cream on the stamps.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TAMUME-Sto...93598&sr=8-5
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Posted 09/25/2021   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jconey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Letgo my eggo.
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Posted 09/25/2021   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In an engineering sense, this type of diamond pattern, is referred to as KNURLING

Always found on the shaft of micrometers, to enable a fine / light touch.
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Posted 09/25/2021   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jconey, I think you answered your own question. Nice research!

Since these (R152) were used on tons of bank checks, the grill cancel makes sense for invalidating the check, too. Perhaps like with the plastic gizmo, it would be used to prevent altering the money amount. So, the cancellation of the stamp might have been incidental or purposeful. The stamps were supposed to be cancelled but many exist on checks without being cancelled.


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Posted 09/25/2021   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The waffling pattern is applied to documents. In this case as a check protector. It would be easy to have a revenue stamp get the same pattern. (Excuse the exposure, but I wanted the raking side lighting to emphasize the waffle pattern.)




They were made with devices similar to this one:



(Image of the embosser was borrowed from eBay several years ago to post in an earlier thread asking about the same effect.)

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Edited by John Becker - 09/25/2021 6:21 pm
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Posted 09/26/2021   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Inkmanno1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great info and pics John. Thankyou.
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Posted 09/26/2021   8:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As an aside,
I clicked the "Like" button on this thread.
Does it remain on the thread? (I notice it has gone back to zero)
If so how is it used, if at all?
Curious
Thanks.

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Posted 09/26/2021   8:31 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rodney,
The 'like' button applies only to Facebook and as far as I know is not used on SCF itself.
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Ah! Thanks Don
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Posted 09/26/2021   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John, interesting little countertop device you show for using on checks. The embossing plates actually look similar to the jaws used in vices to hold items in place.
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Posted 09/27/2021   08:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jconey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, very similar to the jaws in my vice.
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