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Posted 10/11/2021   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sharons25 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone!

I have a Chinese stamp 100 denomination that I need help to ID, it has a overprint. Can you help me?

Thank you and have a great day!
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Posted 10/11/2021   2:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a chungking overprint
SG#247. Scott#179 republic of China
1944. Sun yat-sen (3rd issue redrawn)
(Recess paicheng printing co, nanping)
100$ brown imperf

Correction-
Optd as T3, in Chungking
* not the T9 image I posted earlier *


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Edited by Just_fella - 10/11/2021 6:16 pm
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Posted 10/11/2021   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Sharons25.

Assuming you have access to Scott. Suggest you look at the listings for Sinkiang.

A larger, sharper resolution photo of the overprint would be helpful.
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Posted 10/11/2021   6:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Justfella - Why do you continually go back and make major informational changes to your posts. The threads can start to become disjointed and nonsensical.
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Posted 10/11/2021   10:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I only added a few things printer, Scott # and information about the stamp
I withdrew the T9 image after calstamp Caught my mistake :) (T3 not T9)
Chengtu(T9) and Chungking(T3) are listed under sinkiang also (T3)

Was Just trying to help, I'll stop

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Posted 10/12/2021   05:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with Calstamp.
Sinkiang.
Chinese Turkestan.
Perhaps Sc#179 1944 A57 $100 Orange Brown Imperf
(Scan looks red brown)
c$3
Dr. Sun Yat Sen
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Edited by rod222 - 10/12/2021 05:58 am
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Posted 10/12/2021   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SC#179 is the closest you'll get

I think you'll find this is the overprint


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Posted 10/12/2021   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Justfella - The second character is all wrong.
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Posted 10/12/2021   2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is an ROC stamp
Sinkiang Def 011 Dr. Sun Yat-sen Issue, 1st Pai Cheng Print, with Overprint Reading #12317;Restricted for Use in Sinkiang.
The overprint was also done by the Pai Cheng Printing Press in No.6 Sung typeset characters.
Issue date: 1943-01-01 set of 14 stamps.

There seems to be a typo printing fault in the 2nd character (missing the horiz. strokes) in the OP's stamp



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Definitive 38 Dr. Sun Yat-sen Issue, 1st Pai Cheng Print (1942)
Pai Cheng Printing Press at Nanping in Fukien Province

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Edited by perf12 - 10/12/2021 2:52 pm
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Posted 10/12/2021   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks perf12,
My Stanley gibbons vol17 China 8 edition, Only has a listing for T3 Chungking for this stamp?
Would Chungking be considered part of Fukien? (Eastern-southern)
since it's the only listing
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Posted 10/12/2021   4:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Glad I am sticking with Ireland overprints.
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Posted 10/12/2021   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chungking was the capital of Nationalist China from (1937–1945).
It appears the overprint is on the , 1st Pai Cheng Print (1942).
The stamp was printed by the Pai Cheng Printing Press at Nanping in Fukien Province.
The Overprint was done at the Pai Cheng Printing Press in 1943.Apparently they must of used some left over stamps from the 1st 1942 printing (brown stamp).The majority of the others were the bistre yellow shade of 1943.
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Posted 10/12/2021   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pre-1945 wasn't Chungking considered part of sinkiang and post-1945 Szechwan?
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Posted 10/12/2021   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Chungking. Szechuan.

Hmmm. Am getting hungry.
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Posted 10/12/2021   7:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Only perforated 13 mentioned?


Until 1944



There is also mention of there being three different types of T3
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Posted 10/12/2021   7:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perf12,
I do believe your overprint looks closer to the original picture posted.




Small difference,
**not a significant difference**







I'm not sure why SG only lists this as a #247…..I'll have to grab a C.S.S catalogue
To fill in some blanks left from Stanley gibbons and Scott catalogues


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Edited by Just_fella - 10/12/2021 11:03 pm
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