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#246 Very Weird Like Father X-Mas.

 
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Posted 10/13/2021   12:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rafmal to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hey everyone , we all good I trust.
my Scott 246 looks a little different .
may the experts elaborate a little of what you think it is.
please



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Posted 10/13/2021   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably a bit of foreign matter adhering to the paper that subsequently fell off, taking the ink with it.
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Posted 10/13/2021   9:57 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is difficult to determine without examining this stamp in person. It may be a scuff, or may be foreign material present, or what Dudley opined.
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Posted 10/14/2021   09:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rafmal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi guys @ orstampman an dudley
thanks and much appreciated for the response ...
i think examining the stamp will help but I don't see any scruff,
like it looks like the paper is normal .. I mean it doesn't look like anyone took a needle and scratched it , and looking closely we can see bits or the ink there. there is also no loose fibre on that area or else where.
and the foreign matter thing , I cant see any sign of anything stuck to it.
guys im only saying what I see . I trust you'll opinion greatly.
maybe a few more close up??
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Posted 10/14/2021   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rafmal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
if you need more pictures , let me know thanks
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Posted 10/14/2021   11:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jconey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would ditto what's already been postulated.

BUT... Father Christmas, I think not... Uncle Sam would be closer I think.


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Posted 10/14/2021   1:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Folks seem to be overlooking the white spaces on the jacket in the area where a breast pocket would be.

Closeup scans of all three areas would help. If from foreign matter on the surface of the paper when printed, some level of indent often occurs as well as some level of haloing at the edges of the white area.

Again, close, with a loop, examination of the white areas would be needed to rule out ink removal by adhesion but, given the size and orientation of the white spaces, scuffing seems very remote.

Lastly something could have touched the inked plate and was removed or fell off but took the ink from the plate in those areas with it.
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Posted 10/14/2021   7:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GMC89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
IN my opinion it appears to be a beat up stamp with scuffs across the entire face of the printed area.

Edit for clarification
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Edited by GMC89 - 10/14/2021 7:19 pm
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Posted 10/14/2021   7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Father X-Mas
Non-Birthing Person X-Mas
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Posted 10/14/2021   11:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rafmal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ Parcelpostguy, thank you for your suggestion I think you do make some good pointers .
i will add some more close up later today. thank you very much
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Posted 10/15/2021   12:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Something was adhered to the face and pulled off. That is apparent. It is a damaged stamp. The end.
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Posted 10/15/2021   08:11 am  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After re-viewing the stamp image, I think rogdcam may be correct. There are many parts of the stamp that have this adherence/ink-absence (note many spots on Franklin's face), so an overlay removal may have done either/both, perhaps being attached to the backside of a partially gummed stamp, and then attempted to be separated.
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Posted 10/17/2021   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rafmal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



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Posted 10/17/2021   01:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I have found "scuffing" difficult to re-produce via scan.
Under a decent magnifier, one can note the damaged fibres on the stamp surface.

Also, where a collector has tried to separate 2 stamps, adhered via humidity, and the lower stamp has part of the face image lifted.
Easily discernible, from a genuine stamp flaw.
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Edited by rod222 - 10/17/2021 01:03 am
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Posted 10/17/2021   01:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Scuffing" may be too strong a word here.

Although it may be poor methodology to speculate without the stamp in hand, the effect looks more like a Post-It note was used to pull off random fibers across the entire surface, and thus post-use damage rather than a production EFO.
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