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Scott 112 Plate Scratch Flaw In 1

 
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Posted 10/15/2021   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Wshuwahere77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi All-

I'm missing 112 and have been looking at getting one over the past few months. I keep noticing on some of the stamps up for auction have this scratch to the right of the 1. Is this a known plate flaw? I have seen it a few times now. Happy to read about it if anyone can point to something useful. Thanks.




Another on eBay with the same scratch
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234229398240
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Posted 10/15/2021   3:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a plate scratch. A scratch causes a depression in the plate surface where ink would collect and then print on to the stamp paper as a line of color.

For such to be caused by a scratch with a loss of ink, the scratch (or damage) must occur on the transfer roll. That then causes a raised area on the plate image causing a lack of color (ink transfer). Such would produce a constant variety.
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Posted 10/15/2021   4:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pbmorris to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just checked mine and it looks like a consistent flaw.
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Posted 10/15/2021   9:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gettinold to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Have one that looks like more than a scratch:



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Posted 10/15/2021   10:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I always thought that was part of the design. Here's my used copy.

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Posted 10/16/2021   12:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the 112's in Siegel's database have the same feature including intact blocks. 123's do not.
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Posted 10/16/2021   06:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wshuwahere77 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all! I find it interesting that some have it and some do not. even on blocks! Wonder what caused that. see below from siegel database.

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Posted 10/16/2021   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I reviewed a LOT of plate proofs on cardboard and found this one that also has the feature:


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Posted 10/16/2021   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Take a look at this proof on India block:


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Posted 10/16/2021   09:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add widglo46 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if something more general happened to the transfer roll used for this stamp. I've seen several #112's with similar areas that I thought were scrapes. Perhaps they are not scrapes at all but due to the transfer roll itself. It does seem that the darker the stamp (more heavily inked plate?) the less visible these defects.
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Posted 10/16/2021   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add widglo46 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is also interesting that the area around the "1" is generally significantly darker than any other area on the stamp. the plate must have collected more ink in that area, and maybe it was more prone to be lifted off when the sheets were stacked.
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Posted 10/16/2021   11:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the proof on India block I show above you can see the element in question become progressively more pronounced as you go clockwise from the top left stamp.
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