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Posted 10/17/2021   5:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am not a Canadian nor PEI specialist, but I saw this and thought it was an interesting item.

Besides welcoming your general comment about this item, I was wondering if the plate proof was pulled contemporaneously to the creation of the stamp plate or if such items were pulled much later for some reason by the printing organization or the Post Office.

Also a general price range of a single plate proof and the entire sheet as well as price/interest comparison between the plate and die proofs. Can I assume that plate proofs are the stepchildren of die proof in this area as is the general case with early US material?


Knowing the current owner, he has two wonderful dogs and as such the curved line at the upper left likely was from the Weimaraner.
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Posted 10/17/2021   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unitrade Note:

Reprint plate proofs exist in black on thick paper for the 2d (#5), 4d (#9), 3 cent (#13) and 12 cent (#16). Value $30 each.
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Posted 10/17/2021   6:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Parcelpostguy


The sheet you show would probably be printer in grey/black for the printer to examine before going to press print. Then printed in dull/rose. Then perforated probably 9 x 9.

I am not a P.E.I. stamp either.

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Posted 10/17/2021   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I don't know about the paper, but the sheet just sold for north of $160 plus shipping after a start of $0.01. There were ten bidders. What is most interesting is that a dealer (based upon the bidder's near 20,000 feedback) bid $105.55.

So, are there regular plate proofs (trial color) or just the reprint plate proofs?

Would you support my idea that the Unitrade prices are based upon lack of interest (demand) and not quantity of available material? Five times catalog with five of ten bidders going far over catalog seems a message of scarcity.
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Posted 10/17/2021   7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dealers hack up the 2d black reprint sheets and sell the singles for 10 Pounds a pop. They are everywhere for sale. Singles, strips, blocks. Basically any flavor you desire.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_ss...ack&_sacat=0

What Robert is talking about is an entirely different animal.
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Posted 10/18/2021   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Prince Edward Island proofs shown are reprints from the original plates. The Royal Philatelic Society of London acquired the plates for the 2d., 4d., 3c, and 12c stamps along with some of the dies. These were used to illustrate an article by J. A. Tilleard in the London Philatelist in 1869. The sheet shown is one of the pages from the magazine. collectible and scarce.
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Posted 10/18/2021   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The Prince Edward Island proofs shown are reprints from the original plates. The Royal Philatelic Society of London acquired the plates for the 2d., 4d., 3c, and 12c stamps along with some of the dies. These were used to illustrate an article by J. A. Tilleard in the London Philatelist in 1869. The sheet shown is one of the pages from the magazine. collectible and scarce.


The sheet that the OP shows is from 1893. The sheets are becoming scarce because the sheets are being cut up for singles at 10 Pounds a pop at a rapid pace.

Here is the real story starting on page 22:

https://archive.org/stream/princeed...alw_djvu.txt
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Posted 10/18/2021   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The sheet that the OP shows is from 1893.

Correct, the issue of the London Philatelist that contained the Tilleard article was Jan-Apr 1893. Without thinking, I picked up the 1869 date from Robson Lowe's Encyclopedia. Full sheets are getting scare because they are being cut up and sold individually. The die proofs from that issue are seldom seen.
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