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Posted 10/26/2021   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add paul g to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I wonder if anyone can help shed some light on the KGV Halfpenny stationery stamps?

Am I correct in thinking the images below, borrowed from t'internet, not mine, are the only issues of said stamp, or are there variations?

I know of the halfpenny stamp issued with the Downey head, then the Bertram head was used for when it changed to the One Penny stamp.

I have one which is different to any I can find reference to.

Many thanks.





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Posted 10/26/2021   09:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Edit to clarify;

I was meaning to refer to the outer design, not the fact the Bertram head was used only for the One Penny change.

The Downey head sits within one design, whereas the Bertram head has a different design on the halfpenny stamp.

Thanks.
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Posted 10/26/2021   09:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am not fully sure what your question is.

Your cut-out (i.e., not a stamp) is one that uses the three-quarters Downey Head. Your stamp is a Mackennal. Those exist on papers with three different watermarks. They also come in photogravure print with a solid background.

The corresponding Downey Head stamp (not cut-out) exists on two watermarks, from two dies, with one subtype. This has the head from your cut-out in a frame similar to that of your Mackennal stamp.
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Edited by NSK - 10/26/2021 09:48 am
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Posted 10/26/2021   09:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am a tad confused with what you actually seek.

INLAND POSTCARDS

The halfpenny Downey exists
1911 size 2 in thin paper postcard
1911 size 1 in thick paper postcard

1916 size type 3 (KGV) size 2 in thin paper
1917 ditto no size offered thick paper

Brightmore Page 16 Cat date unknown
ALL ARE FORMAT C

The 1911 Format C, are in further formats REPLY and REPLY CARD

Printer for all : McCorquodale

Downey Head also exists as a STO (stamped to order)
halfpenny green 1913 Format C

Downey Head Post Office Wrapper
1912 Halfpenny
Green on white paper and straw


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Edited by rod222 - 10/26/2021 09:51 am
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Posted 10/26/2021   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
>>>>>I have one which is different to any I can find reference to.<<<<<


A picture would probably put an end to the guessing?


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Posted 10/26/2021   09:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed, apologies for the confusion, I confused myself which is why I tried to clarify with an edit, unsuccessfully!

They are not stamps. They are Stationery stamps.

You will see two different heads, and two different background designs.

Simply put, are the two pictured above the sole designs for this stationery stamp, or are there others, whereby the second pictured head was used in the first pictured background design?
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Posted 10/26/2021   10:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes and No

Yes the second head KGV was used in the Downey Frame BUT
not as a halfpenny


Halfpennies can only be Inland usage, or make up.


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Edited by rod222 - 10/26/2021 10:06 am
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Posted 10/26/2021   10:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is my Stationery Stamp.

As you can see, the head and background design combination is different to any I can find reference to.



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Posted 10/26/2021   10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As I wrote
1916 size type 3 (KGV) size 2 in thin paper
1917 ditto no size offered thick paper

Watermarking images Ugh!
Copyright What's that about? we share here.

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Edited by rod222 - 10/26/2021 10:06 am
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Posted 10/26/2021   10:07 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
eBay example 203639558983

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Posted 10/26/2021   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for clearing that up.

Sorry if the copyright caused any sick, I hope you didn't get it over your keyboard, it is force of habit I'm afraid.

Many thanks.
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Posted 10/26/2021   10:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the Image Don
I was having trouble with Brightmore and a column "Reply paid issue"

If these were reply paid at halfpenny, then the first post was a farthing

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Posted 10/26/2021   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So having looked into it, it appears that this design was only used for 'Reply Paid' rather than postage. Glad to have cleared that up.

Many thanks '51Studebacker' for that image.
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Edited by paul g - 10/26/2021 10:23 am
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Posted 10/26/2021   11:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
So having looked into it, it appears that this design was only used for 'Reply Paid' rather than postage. Glad to have cleared that up.


Nope!

https://www.stampdomain.com/newswra...gne_post.htm

See the Bechuanaland overprints on GB Postal Stationary without the reply inscription:

http://www.gbos.org.uk/index.php/Ov...Stationery/3
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Edited by NSK - 10/26/2021 11:55 am
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Posted 10/26/2021   1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh dear.

Ach well, back to the stamp albums....

Thanks for the info, though.
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Edited by paul g - 10/26/2021 1:45 pm
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Posted 10/26/2021   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Oh dear.
Ach well, back to the stamp albums....


These were covered by my original post ...STO's

Downey Head also exists as a STO (stamped to order)
halfpenny green 1913 Format C

Nice to see images of the STO Cologne Post
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Edited by rod222 - 10/26/2021 8:12 pm
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