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Ukrainian Rebel Zone Mail

 
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Posted 10/26/2021   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Rob Roy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Does anyone know what postage service is operating in the rebel zones? Do they use Russian mail and stamps?
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Posted 10/26/2021   12:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldboldandbrash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok very interesting question! I had to look it up myself: According to Wikipedia, a new postal organization called the Crimean Post was organized, it's not a member of the UPU and its job is to slowly integrate Crimean mail with the regular Russian Post. It was founded in 2014 and since then the Ukrainian Post has not handled mail to Crimea. In the end the crimean post will be dissolved and folded into the Russian Post.

Any Crimean readers want to exchange some mail?
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Posted 10/26/2021   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the swift info.
Is this the case in the northern rebel zones, like Donetsk region?

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Got my answer from Wiki: "Preparations for issue of own stamps were underway since March 2015, and by May 9 the first such stamp was issued in DPR and LPR".
So they have their own stamps, can they use them for international mailing, or only for domestic use?
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Posted 10/26/2021   4:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldboldandbrash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well I guess in a way could we compare the situation to like when Katanga was issuing its own stamps? The international community knew they were kind of fake in a way but still went along, right?
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Posted 10/26/2021   4:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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So they have their own stamps, can they use them for international mailing, or only for domestic use?


How? There is nothing but a war zone that is recognised internationally. At best they might be accepted by Russia and, maybe, Belarus. But I would not be surprised if even Russia does not recognise them.
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Posted 10/27/2021   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What I was aiming at, is whether one of us can add those stamps to our collection.
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Posted 10/28/2021   03:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vicaf60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Donetsk and Luhansk, they issue their own stamps in abundance, including souvenir sheets and FDCs with first day cancellations. There's even a nulti-volume catalogue of those stamps prepared by a Russian philatelist from Kaliningrad (former Koenigsberg).

The stamps are widely used for inland mail, inside those "republics". Their "international" use is resricted to mail between the two "republics". All really international mail connections (they do have them) are arranged through special Post Boxes located in the neighbouring towns on the teritory of Russia. To send an international letter (postcard, package, etc.), you have to write the address of that PB and your details, including your mobile phone number. You pay for the mail, but no astamps are affixed, and no cancellation is made - all this is done in Russia, and Russian stamps are applied.
So the mail looks like entirely Russian, except for the sender's address (where such names and Luhansk Peoples Republic (LPR) or Donetsk Peoples Republic (DPR) are not allowed).
The postage tariffs for international mail are Russian, as well.

In other words, they use the same scheme for international mail as in South Ossetia.
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