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Posted 11/11/2021   08:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add APS-ISWSC Member to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have been given a stamp collection from a friend which was formed in the 1950's. It is quite diverse. I understand the nomenclature for US plate blocks, plate number singles, zip blocks, etc., but what would these be called in Israel? Thanks, I appreciate all your help.

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Posted 11/11/2021   08:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps with tabs


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Posted 11/11/2021   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tabs. A number of companies offer preprinted albums for Israeli stamps with the option to choose with or without tabs.
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Posted 11/11/2021   4:29 pm  Show Profile Check Triangle's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Triangle to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
unmounted mint with tabs from the early years attract premium prices!
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Posted 11/11/2021   5:01 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or, conversely, stamps without tabs are a hard sell.
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Posted 11/12/2021   6:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed most if not all Israeli stamps come with tabs and here, less common and IMHO not used in later years, you have a second tab.
Usually the Israeli tabs add information about the stamps. Here - it notes "Independence day 1964, memorial day".
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Posted 11/14/2021   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add APS-ISWSC Member to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Getting much clearer. So ... would these be considered tabs, also? Thanks to all,


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Posted 11/14/2021   9:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes.
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I do not have a Bale catalog but there is a foreword in the Scott Israel section regarding tabs that states that tabs having two parts must have both present to qualify for the tabs valuation. A lengthy list of Scott numbers is given for those stamps with two tabs. Tabs are usually found below the bottom row of stamps in a sheet, sometimes on the sides, thus accounting for only a percentage of the stamps issued. The cv delta is quite sharp. As an example, Scott 15 has a mint cv of 50 cents w/o tab and a mint cv of $42.50 with tab. The large difference in cv for tabbed vs. without tabs ends after the 1953 issues. From there on the difference is minimal.

The 1961 Zodiac stamps pictured above have very little premium for the tabs although they are likely more marketable if a collector is building a tabbed collection.
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Posted 11/15/2021   3:58 pm  Show Profile Check Triangle's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Triangle to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most collectors have tabbed collections. There are plenty on the market as well as individual stamps.
Most early stamps are at a premium because survival was more important than stamp collecting in 1948.
From the 60's to mid 80's there were many collectors and it was a period of high inflation so these stamps in all conditions are found in abundance. Later years from the mid 90s to 2021 there are less collectors, less letter writers and generally high prices for postage so there are less stamps available. Many new issue dealers don't stock Israel or only have small amounts. This means more recent stamps can be more expensive. However if you start to look for varieties, phosphors, unusual use, modern postal history, or other tangential areas you can still build different collections.
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Posted 11/15/2021   4:02 pm  Show Profile Check Triangle's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Triangle to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rodcam I do have an old Bale as the current edition is too expensive. There are also several other catalogues Moriah and Carmel produce editions in Israel. Even these modern books don't seem to give realistic prices!

Happy to discuss further!
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Posted 11/15/2021   8:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can this site help, regarding the tabs?
http://israelphilately.org.il/en/catalog/stamps
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Posted 11/16/2021   12:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add APS-ISWSC Member to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Rob Roy and all others, thanks, I appreciate the help. So ... for images 4 and 8 below, in the US they would be properly be called "plate number blocks" or casually "plate blocks." What would they be called in Israel philately? Thanks so much.



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Posted 11/16/2021   12:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Plate number blocks
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Posted 11/16/2021   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add APS-ISWSC Member to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, rogdcam, that was fast!! ... 3 minutes!
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Posted 11/16/2021   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For anyone who wants to know what the numbers mean:



For more information see the article in American Philatelist January 1993.
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