Looking For A Used Set Of 2016 Or 2017 Scott Catalogues (Volumes 1-6)

Hi all,

I'm in the market for a used set (Volumes 1-6) of 2016 or 2017 Scott Catalogues. Library editions are okay... Please quote a delivered price (to Des Moines, Iowa) via SCF email. I would prefer payment by PayPal. Appreciate if someone can help.

John

Sent you a message.

Edit. Oh well we tried. In case anyone wonders the set of 6 catalogues in a box weighs in at 20kg or 41 lbs. Postage cost to Iowa from N.S. Canada is just over $120.00cdn.or $96.00US. Ouch!

Thank you, Mike.

It is a bit frustrating, for sure.

I suppose most some people would just grab a pirated PDF 2017 set off of eBay for $8 and be done with it, but that is just wrong.

I guess I will still keep looking...

John

I see the volumes available piecemeal on Amazon for about $20 each with free shipping (not sure if for everyone or only Prime members).

As for the pirated digital copy, while the purchase is ethically and legally unsound, there may be modest comfort in knowing that Scott receives the same amount whether you buy a genuine used hardcopy or a pirated digital one: $0

I hear you.

However, that used set was originally bought from Scott at the regular price, or at a wholesale price (in the case of libraries or other wholesale buyers).

It is hard, sometimes, to do the right thing...

John

Wasn't Mr Scott ethically and legally unsound? I'm sure he wouldn't mind.

Exactly. Scott got its money. There's no "however." What happens to an old edition/out of print book or set after it's originally sold, has no economic impact on Scott. A legitimate 2016 edition sold at a used book store for $20 means the same thing to Scott as a pirated copy selling online for $8, or a copy a friend gives you for free. What matters is whether the newest, latest version is made available through illicit and less costly means, driving people to buy that instead of from the publisher, depriving the IP owner of its rightful income. There's even an argument to be made that the pirated version serves Scott, since it allows for the low-cost entry of a hesitant consumer into the marketplace, perhaps influencing them to one day buy a new edition at full price.

Again, I'm not saying it's legal or even right (many illegal things throughout history have been morally right), but Scott is no worse off for an old electronic edition being pirated and sold on the second-hand market.

Any time a collector finds a way to avoid buying from Scott, it lowers Scott's profits and causes the next catalog to cost more.
The ways to avoid buying from Scott/SG/Michell are: Used copy, pirated copy, libraries, online catalog sites that refer to the original catalog, several collectors buying and sharing one catalog. All these ways affect Scott's income the same way, so is there any use to differentiate their validity or legitimacy?

You guys are leaving out an important difference between pirated and the other used editions. The pirated copy can be sold over and over again, thus making money for the pirate and taking money away from the other legitimate used book sellers. Don't buy pirated stuff.

wkusau, =- Exactly.

In the resell mode the resell is limited by the number of books printed. This is not so with s pirated digital version. This is the basis for Digital Rights Management for audio and video and many going to "service" based model. Scott gave up on PDFs because of the piracy.

Since the information and price changes in Scott are minimal from year to year it hardly seems relevant.

Many companies use the excuse of piracy to give up on transitioning to digit.

But the truth is that copying, scanning of a hardcopy is easy and is done everyday, there are countless pirated scanned hardcopy versions of stamp catalogs floating around online**. And those legitimate hard copy catalogs...they are sold and resold many times over too and the publisher does not get any income from them after the first sale.

It is easy to 'find' reasons to avoid going digital, resistant to change is always great. There are ways to secure PDFs including those which make them far more resistant to pirating than hard copies. The trouble is that publishers do not want to invest in change and that really secure PDFs can be a pain-in-the-butt (for users). Like most software, the cost is not the NRE development but rather the support. Anyone who has ever dealt with a secure PDF scheme knows exactly what I am talking about; for example simply moving the PDF file to another device when your original device dies typically results in a support call to the publisher. How many stamp catalog publishers that you know could efficiently handle that kind of support call?
Don

**Once one person scans a hardcopy it is no different than having an unsecure PDF floating around.

In the past, I emailed Yvert alerting them to a guy in the US who was selling PDFs of one or more of their catalogues for download. They didn't even acknowledge my contact.

I have many links to pirated online stamps catalogs (all of them are hardcopy scanned versions); we remove them from this community whenever people try to post them. For whatever reason(s), the frequency of people trying to post links to the online pirated stamp catalogs has dropped off over the last year or two.
Don

Fixed it for you: "The library copy can be loaned out over and over again, thus making no money for the library and taking money away from the other legitimate used book sellers."

In addition, in the UK, Public Lending Right enables payments to be made to copyright holders when books are borrowed from public libraries.