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The Stamps And Labels Of Spain.

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Posted 04/12/2023   08:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On page 3 I have seen some of the ones that I have a catalogue.

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Posted 04/12/2023   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Marvelous! Thanks Roberto
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Posted 04/12/2023   5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Having trouble with these two fellows.
Identified as Edefil # 194T 1878 (Page 8, Tomo V)
25c
Is this a Telegraph? (Unpunctured)
Anyone recognise the attractive Postmark? Telegraph or Postal Postmark?

Maybe Matasellos de uso general
1879
Rombo de puntos negro
Page 222 Edefil Catalogo Unificado Especializado
(seen image but the dots were a lot finer) Author RK1468


PS: I do not repair the bent Tooth whilst dry, it would snap off, I soak in water, later, to do that.



30c Timbre Movil
Unable to locate in Edefil Vol 5 or 6
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Posted 04/12/2023   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The dotted rhombus postal cancellation with a star is normal for the stamp this era, but I wouldn't even bet $1 on it.
The other is a prosecutor from the 40s, Spanish State, he wears a yoke and arrows.
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Posted 04/12/2023   6:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, as Roberto59 mentions, rombo de puntos con estrella (star), also found with rombo interior (centre rhomboid). One of my favourite Spanish postmarks. Common for that issue in black, just Edifil 194.
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Posted 04/12/2023   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Guys


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The other is a prosecutor from the 40s, Spanish State, he wears a yoke and arrows.

If any member would suggest what Catalogue (Nationalist) this may lie in, please post.
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Edited by rod222 - 04/12/2023 8:28 pm
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Posted 04/12/2023   9:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have it, I just collect postage stamps. It costs around 70

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Posted 04/12/2023   9:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again, Thank you Roberto.

Spanish TELEGRAPHS Note
My note: These stamps were inscribed "COMUNICACIONES" to indicate that they were valid for both postal and telegraphic communications.
This was changed to "CORREOS Y TELGRAFOS" (Posts & Telegraphs) for the 1879-89 issues, possibly to prevent their use to pay for telephone calls ?
The use of punches appears to have been phased out as the cost of telegraphy dropped and potential re-use was less of a problem.

Bib: https://telstamps.org.uk/Telegraphs...ndex-Es.html
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Posted 04/13/2023   06:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first telephone call by private line other than by experiment was made in Fregenal de la Sierra, in Badajoz in 1880. The date of 1879 coincides with the introduction of the telephone as a means of communication in Spain. The word 'comunicaciones' would have got a wider meaning at that time.

Your idea might not be far of the mark. I would expect it was due to more correctly describe the use of the stamps due to the change in the meaning of 'communications' and not so much to explicitly exclude payments of telephone calls. I suppose an example of "same difference."
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Posted 04/13/2023   7:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just for transparency,
the "my note" and comments
were those of Mr. Steve Panting. not myself.
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Posted 04/24/2023   04:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Exposition Filatelica y Numismatica Gracia 1960
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Posted 04/24/2023   05:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Spain Revenues Especial Movil 1940-59

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