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Victorian Numeral Cancel Queries

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Posted 09/27/2022   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
2 or 7 ??

I'm thinking this is Brunswick (22)
or Creswick (7)

Any other possibility?
Thanks,
Pat

PS - Just saw this put me at 500!

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Posted 09/27/2022   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 09/27/2022   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting
Definite 7 (Creswick)
I do not have that duplex hammer impression under Creswick
(Watson, Webster and Wood)

It can only be one of 11
Berwick
Brunswick
Creswick
Elsternwick
Fenwick
Glenpatrick
Jindivik
Pederick
Sedgwick
Taminick
Whipstick

I guess then it is CRESWICK (Framed) Duplex 3-3-3-3 bar 7
Watson, Webster and Wood #90
side arcs of 2mm Diameter 25mm
Usage October 16th 1900 to 10th June 1935


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Edited by rod222 - 09/27/2022 3:52 pm
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Posted 09/27/2022   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.
It's always nice to elevate an otherwise common stamp to a bit more interesting one.

Along those lines, how do you prefer to arrange your cancel collections?
In this case barred numerals.

Do you group by stamp type & town name then number, or do you just start at 1 and group numerically to the end.

How do you handle adding a new number in the middle of the collection?

I've decided to finally re-arrange my Victoria cancel collection and was looking for some suggestions.

Right now, I'm using the shotgun approach.
I'm using Vario pages.

Thanks for suggestions,
pat
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Posted 09/27/2022   5:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Along those lines, how do you prefer to arrange your cancel collections?


Collecting postmarks, is akin to collecting sand grains on the beach.
it's endless (but enjoyable)

As a worldwide collector, my time is most important
so my routine is

1. Collect images digitally first. Why?

One click and you can sort EVERY postmark, of your discipline
and compare that to Auction Catalogues, for price and scarcity.

Example


2.
Collect randomly, use block spaces as stock sheets and pencil in
names /info
I use the pages to give flavour to my Steiner Pages

I am not a fan of Vario pages, prefer to hinge

Some examples of my humble efforts
This also gives me opportunity to see "shades"


or


or "on piece"
"whatever floats your boat"
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Posted 09/28/2022   12:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Both eBay

Your CRESWICK WWD Cat#90


CRESWICK WWD#80
Arcs 1mm and 0.5mm
23.5mm Diam
3-1-1-3
Unframed Duplex
April14th 1896 to Nov14th 1898
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Posted 09/29/2022   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod - thanks for the suggestions and examples.

I think I'll be grouping stamps and postmarks by Roo's and KGV (I like the idea of being able to compare shades), then stamps of Australian States and postmarks, then various modern postmarks from the states.

The one that will take the longest is Victoria. I have a binder that just covers Melbourne cancels.

Will see how it goes.
pat

Here is another. I like the ones that have enough info to have a shot.


Horsham, Vic. (BNC 51)



(From Phoenix)
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Posted 09/29/2022   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Here is another. I like the ones that have enough info to have a shot.


My Catalogues do not go as high as H

Horsham is correct but there are two different hammers
the earlier hammer has the light bars and thinner text and numerals
Should attract differing prices.

Both unframed


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Posted 09/29/2022   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's what is fun trying to decipher what you find in Pheonix with what you have.
Even down to the length of the arcs or circle diameter.

Don't have any in-depth catalog, so just do the best I can.

Still looking for my first RRRRRR (just kidding)

All is good fun,
pat
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Posted 10/22/2022   12:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I recently acquired this Victoria Stamp Duty revenue stamp that appears to be postally used. I assume that revenue stamps were sometime used as postage. Is that correct?

The cancel reads <blank> YARRA VICTORIA, index C, SP or AP 21, 1935 or 85, Killer 20?

I could use a little help filling in the blanks and straightening me out.

Also, the stamp has a J next to the 5 of the cancel. Is that the plate Number?

Comments welcome, thanks in advance,

Linus


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Edited by Linus - 10/22/2022 12:11 am
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Posted 10/22/2022   02:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StevieG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it is South Yarra, number 200. Probably the Fourth Duplex which was in use from 1885 or earlier.
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Posted 10/22/2022   02:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StevieG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The letter "J" and, on the other side is the letter "L". The second letter is covered by the postmark.
JL is probably the initials of the engraver who is unknown. (Source is Kellow: The Stamps of Victoria)
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Posted 10/22/2022   07:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
StevieG

Thank you very much for the information.

Linus
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Posted 10/22/2022   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jose.ze to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi there!

Here are some scans. I don't know much about the numerals. The number on the right one is not clear but it seems to begin with a 6 and ends with a 2. So any information, like in wich town the stamps where posted, would be nice. Thanks.
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Posted 10/22/2022   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Practising.
888 MINYIP
9 (Type 4b) NSW Pmk BATHURST
6?2 (Victoria type C, No side bars) we need a clearer image of the stamp
(single image 200dpi)

All need confirmation.
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Edited by rod222 - 10/23/2022 04:02 am
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