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Japanese Occupation Malaysia - Forgery?

 
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Posted 01/20/2022   10:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cor to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Japanese overprint on a George V stamp ! A forgery? Help is welcome! Cor.
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Posted 01/20/2022   4:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The overprint is a type 2 of the 9 different types.
Type 1 & 2 were used in Singapore.
I think it looks genuine.
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Canada
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Posted 01/20/2022   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add j2186 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Scott, this stamp with overprint is listed under Straits Settlements with catalogue number N12.

It is not a cheap stamp and it wouldn't surprize me if the overprints had been forged. I don't know enough to be able to tell if your example is real or forged.

Jan
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United States
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Posted 01/20/2022   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can you repost it, but in-focus?
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Netherlands
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Posted 01/21/2022   05:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here a more in focus picture of the same stamp. Hope it helps in the problem solving!
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Posted 01/23/2022   06:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Scott image seems cruder in some way.
The Bleeker Booklet offers this
(For Dutch East Indies)
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Netherlands
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Posted 01/23/2022   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks rod222. My doubt was that the overprint is on a much older George V stamp, not on an Edward stamp as usual.
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Posted 01/23/2022   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shouldn't the chop be in red? It also looks like a British colonial era cancel which wasn't used by the occupying Japanese administration.
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United States
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Posted 01/23/2022   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampdoc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's a forgery.

1. That looks like Scott 192, which was issued from 1921-1932. The Japanese occupation stamps should be on Straits Settlement stamps issued from 1936-1941, which say Malaya at the top.
2. I agree with Rod that the overprint is a Type 2 (or B depending on which monogram you use), however the Type 2 overprint on 12c Straits Settlements is only known in red.
3. A black overprint is known on the 12c, but it is Type 1, which is significantly different from this.
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Posted 01/23/2022   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampdoc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry - I meant I agreed with perf12 on the Type 2
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Netherlands
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Posted 01/23/2022   1:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Stampdoc, my idea also is that a occupational overprint on a George V stamp is highly improbable!
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