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Posted 01/23/2022   8:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Timm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message



I am trying to find more information about this non postal overprint and the company who did it.

A google search for Cork Gas Consumers Company's history was a bust.

When was it established? Where was it located (address). Is it still operating?

Are there other companies that overprinted Irish stamps similar to this?

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Posted 01/23/2022   8:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Commercial Overprint
Not listed in the Commercial Overprints Soc.

Common type overprints used in England, not seen many from Ireland.

Actually, I see it is an Receipt type overprint
That would differ from the usual Commercial overprint.
If the 2p is "Postage and revenue"?
Then is would have been adhered to a paper, I would suggest.

I think "Cork Gas" is still alive
albeit, unsure if it would be the same company


https://francesbird.blog/2020/08/27...d-1908-1991/


https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/co...549-Oct2014/
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Edited by rod222 - 01/23/2022 8:49 pm
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Posted 01/23/2022   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the reply. For some reason Goggle does not search foreigh websites very well. Here I could type in Cork Gas Consumers Company and maybe only get a couple of hits. In Europe if asking Google the same question you would get multiple hits.
I'm hoping someone in Europe has more information.
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Edited by rod222 - 01/23/2022 10:49 pm
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Posted 01/24/2022   11:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the help.
From your suggestions and a lot more Goggling I found this:

In 1825 the Cork Wide Street Commissioners, a municipal planning agency of sorts, entered into an arrangement with the United Gas Company of London to provide Cork City with gas lighting between the hours of sunset and sunrise, with each gas lamp to provide light equivalent to that of twelve mould tallow candles. The United Gas Company's network served the city between 1826 and 1859.

By the mid-1850s local interest groups began to mount a strong and ultimately successful challenge to the monopoly exercised by the United General Gas Co. of London. John Francis Maguire (1815-72), proprietor of the Cork Examiner and a staunch advocate of economic nationalism curbed the influence and monopoly and incorporated a rival gas company the Cork Gas Consumers' Company, acquired a three acre site for its own proposed gasworks adjacent to the London one. Work began in January 1857 with 36 miles of service pipes laid and 43 miles of mains. In 1984 the gas industry was in tremendous difficulty. The Cork Consumer Gas Company was essentially bankrupt and the Limerick, Waterford, Wexford and Dublin gas companies eventually wound up in receivership. The site today is now occupied by the National Offices of Bord Gais Energy.

The stamp was apperently used as a revenue stamp on a document sometime around 1922 to maybe 1940.
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Edited by Timm - 01/24/2022 11:35 am
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Posted 01/24/2022   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another example of irish "commercial overprint"
Queen's Old Castle is a shopping center

(not mine)

(photo circa 1935)
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Posted 01/24/2022   12:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NickIreland to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I have seen a few overprints like this on old Irish receipts from utilities and tradespeople from the 1930's through to the 1950's. Just as Rod describes I have never seen one used for postage. The examples below are from Electricity Supply Companies and gas companies, in the UK and were used for also endorsing receipts, as one states quite clearly, but I have also seen these used for postage.
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Posted 01/24/2022   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DeeBee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I recently won at auction a small lot of British utility overprints. I had never seen them before. Glad I saw this post this afternoon.
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Posted 01/24/2022   6:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great contributions from everyone !

Advance in knowledge on these (Thanks Vayolene)
I had searched 7 copies of the "The Revealer" Bulletins
Yet to find any mention of these.

The Commercial overprints soc, give a blank when searched on "Ireland"

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Posted 01/25/2022   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a FREE commerical overprint catalogue PDF at
http://www.filateliaspecializzata.i...tter%20S.pdf

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Seeing the Queen's old castle overprint make me wonder how many more of these overprints there are.
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Posted 01/25/2022   9:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice *.pdf Thanks for sharing.
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