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Canada's Efos And Weird Mistakes.

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Posted 01/28/2022   11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I struggle with similar questions
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Posted 01/28/2022   11:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bk80 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is nice. Very possible. Many thanks. I pictured them with open wings. Yours looks really nice. Very possible.
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Posted 01/29/2022   12:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a thought :)

I'm still curious about the slime hole, I have more questions then answers.
Why does it look pushed out?
anyone have other examples that they could please add?

If you do send it somewhere, I'd like to ask you questions?
I wondered in this situation, how it's all done?
Who to send it to, costs, insurance, care…..how do the situation and circumstances get turned to a $ amount
What's more valuable the time we took to understand this and have a little appreciation for each other's thoughts and ability to work together or money?

This is a great example, thank you for sharing this
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Posted 01/29/2022   09:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Canada, its the Vincent Graves Greene Philatelic Research Foundation. You can find out about it in this link below.

http://www.greenefoundation.ca
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Posted 01/29/2022   09:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd get lost in that library for days!!
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Edited by Just_fella - 01/29/2022 09:08 am
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Posted 01/29/2022   09:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bk80 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes questions arise, absolutely... and they should. Most of long time collectors got burned somewhere along the line. Sometimes little outches and sometimes big ones. We have to ask questions and to investigate as much as we can on our own.
About the hole in the polar bear stamps. I saw it on the net and it was being sold for a few dollars also. I love the unusual and to dig or flush out a story.
It turns out that this one is a story. Many will doubt (I sound like a preacher) and this may be a reason to get experts to look at it. Will they do this?
Next week by pure chance I will visit an expertizing place in Toronto where they have a major philatelic library and I will ask all those questions.
Stay tuned.
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Posted 01/29/2022   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"I will visit an expertizing place in Toronto where they have a major philatelic library and I will ask all those questions."

Can't say I'm not jealous :)
Please keep us posted!

Would they be interested in a story or would you need a historian or researcher involved, prior to a expert viewing it?

Seems like there are lots of angles to cover.



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Posted 01/29/2022   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
People believe what they want to believe. I was on a construction project once in Boston that was in a very sensitive historical zone. We were excavating and the MA Historical Commission had an archeologist monitoring our spoils. He became apoplectic when he saw a "colonial nail" in our soil. He was going on about it and taking photos and measurements. It was like Christmas. Our grizzled (and wiser) Superintendent grabbed it from him, examined it and threw it in a pile exclaiming "it's a f***ing form tie". And it was. Sometimes things are what they seem at first. Bugs are bugs.
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Posted 01/29/2022   10:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes things are what they seem at first.

everybody had fun and learned something
That's how I read that story
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Posted 01/29/2022   10:11 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The jury is still out in my opinion. For example, if the bug was in the paper pulp I would think that during the printing process the ink would be on top of the bug parts.

But having forum opinions (based solely upon images) is one thing, and having certifications (based on stamps-in-hand and from actual experts) is another. If you send them in, please let us know the results.
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Posted 01/29/2022   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agree it's 100% speculation off the images, and descriptions given to us

I'm just trying to learn
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Edited by Just_fella - 01/29/2022 11:21 am
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Posted 01/29/2022   12:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The PF must see some crazy things submitted.
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Posted 01/29/2022   12:45 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do not recall ever seeing a certification that called out 'bugs' or 'slime' but perhaps one of our EFO specialists can address this?
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Posted 01/29/2022   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The lack of finding certificates for this type of thing may be simple economics. They are not going to be worth many multiples of the certification fees.

Slime hole: I posted the article link because it still seems the best explanation, although not having the item in hand to examine.

The long-legged insect: Insects have a slick hard exoskeleton which would likely not get ink to stick to it. Not seeing ink on the insect's shell is not surprising.

The bug on the field: The back-side image clearly shows the bug was mashed into the paper after the paper was produced. It is hard to tell whether it was mashed before, during or after printing.

All of these would be interesting to examine under a dissecting microscope to confirm the exact layerings.
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Posted 01/29/2022   5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
" would be interesting to examine under a dissecting microscope to confirm the exact layerings."

100% agree with you John!
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