Does Anybody Know What The Pencil Notations Mean On This Rf Entire

I picked these up a long time ago when these were actually listed in the Scott specialized catalogue. I noticed one of the 2c Washington revalued with a black surcharge to 6c with the RF overprint has pencil markings around the face of Washington. Curious if anyone has any thoughts on them. Possibly lining up to apply R.F. Overprints is my thought. I picked up 2 different varieties with overprint as illustrated. I noticed that on the back appears to be some mark on all entires I have - possibly bogus guarantee mark -just guessing.

Pictures?

sorry forgot to upload images - here they are.

They still are listed.

The fact that your particular overprint is unlisted would place them in the "doubtful" category for being genuine.

If you want us to see the backmark, a closeup will be necessary.

Some info here:

http://www.philatelicweb.com/ipda/U...intedRF.html

When I stated these were listed - in the 1960's they were listed by Scott and had a catalogue number - these particular RF's have since been removed.

Not sure what you saw, but looking at my shelf of Scott Specialized's in that era, but R.F.'s are unlisted in 1956 and before. I don't have 1957 or 1958 catalogs to pin down exactly when they were first listed, but they are in the 1959 catalog. Moving forward in time, there is no listing for your script overprint in 1959, 1960, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1976, 1978, 1979, or 1982.

Its just from what I recall I don't have my old catalogues where I am staying right now but I was almost sure either they were listed or at least mentioned. I might be wrong though. Thanks for checking.

They are referenced in the third paragraph of the preamble of the R.F. OVERPRINTS section, page 412 of the 2022 US Specialized.

This is a better image of mark on back. Any thoughts on pencil marks on the Washington head envelope.

I believe the Catalogue was a 1963 specialized not for sure but believe they illustrated the script overprint, but again don't have my books to check.

Stampdorkman, where do you see the pencil marks?

Peter

Perhaps the pencil lines were reference points to measure design elements to determine die numbers etc.

Scott states that these other types of RF overprints are of doubtful validity.

The tiny handstamp is an E with additional lettering is a dealer mark of the Economist Stamp Co. who sold this fake and others as noted in the reference above.
https://www.filatelia.fi/experts/ma...onomist2.jpg
As the reference notes, "R.F." was a control mark struck at the time of mailing. So mint stamps and stationery are not genuine, even with genuine overprints; you have to have a postally used cover. And even those have been forged quite often.

I agree with rogdcam on what the pencil lines are for. Perhaps, someone trying to prove that the die did or did not coincide with the time frame of "R.F." usage?

Thanks for info. I was curious as to the mark on the back and the pencil marks thanks for the input.

http://jobi.bizhosting.com/AirmailCFF.htm

Taken from Bill Lehr's website.

Bill is the man for fake U. S. postal stationery.