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Mexico Cancel On Numeral Stamps - I See Franco?

 
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Posted 02/14/2022   6:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Mrita75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,

Does anyone know what these cancels are? I see the word Franco but I am not really sure if these are all the same? Any guidance is appreciated as always.

Thank you.
Nora
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Posted 02/14/2022   6:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Franco = postage paid, or sometimes not liable for postage.
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Posted 02/14/2022   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mml1942 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The best catalog for Mexico postmarks of this period is Peter Taylor, "The Standardization of Mexican Postmarks, 1884-1900".

The mark on the brown 10c is possibly SAN JULIAN, JALISCO. That office had a marking like this, Taylor Type JAL 80/1.

The mark on the red 10c could be some combination of TABASCO or ESTABAN, but I could not find a match in my catalog of markings. Maybe with Retroreveal, one could pick up some more letters and make a better "guess".

The leftmost 1c green is likely ABOSOLO, COAHUILA, as the example I have shows "VILLA" in the center and this one shows a couple of letters which would match that in the center. The top reads "FRANCO EN". Taylor Type COAH 1/2.

The 2c red with "CHO" could be CHOAPAM (OAX 13/4). The other post offices starting with "CHO..." did not have this style marking recorded.

Most of the others do not have enough letters to pin the post office down.

Many post offices used a device similar to this.

I would not bet a nickel on the quality of these guesses.
Mike
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Posted 02/14/2022   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
LOL - well your bet is better than mine! I need to look for the catalogue you mention above - that would be a great addition to my reference material for Mexico. Thank you so much for the information. Rod had also shared some reference information on a past post I made on a Numeral with a postmark I never figured out. Because that thread was old, it would not allow me to reply so I made this new post. Thanks again! Nora.
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Posted 02/14/2022   8:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mml1942 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mrita,

I have not seen Taylor's postmark book offered in a while. It was a limited printing. He did a second book, that covered 1821 - 1883, in two parts because it was nearly 600 pages. Both tend to sell in the $100-150 range.

The predecessor book, The Postmarks of Mexico: 1874-1900, by Karl Schimmer, does show up on eBay for $100-150. At that price, I'd wait for Taylor. Taylor had access to Schimmer's working copy and made many corrections and added new discoveries.

You could check with the usual philatelic literature dealers and see if they have one for sale.

You could also borrow a copy from APRL if you are an APS member. This way you could see if you thought it worth the investment.

Mike
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Posted 02/15/2022   12:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add crispinhj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A copy of the Schwimmer book is available atm on eBay here in the UK for 100. The postage would probably be frightening! It's in the Classiclatinamerica shop - I tried to post a link but it didn't seem to work
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Posted 02/15/2022   07:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also check for Joseph Schatzkes, The cancellations of Mexico, 1856-1874. Follansbee discusses Schatzkes briefly in The Catalog of the Stamps of Mexico, 1856-1910.
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Posted 02/15/2022   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mml1942 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mrita:

Several years ago, I started to compile a list of Mexico collecting literature. Here is my list of Postal Marking publications

HANDBOOKS: POSTAL MARKINGS

Taylor, Peter W. The Standardization of Mexican Postmarks 1884-1900. Self Published, 2013. 668 pp. Spiralbound. [Taylor $100]

Taylor, Peter W. Postmarks of Mexico: 1821 to 1883, Vol I : Acapulco Morelia, Vol 2: Oaxaca Zamora. Self Published, 2015. 594 pp. Full color. Spiralbound in two parts. [Taylor $100]

Schatzke, Joseph. The Cancellations of Mexico: 1856 1874. London: Robson Lowe, Ltd. Second Impression (100 copies). 1964. Green cloth, 16 color plates. The first impression was issued in an edition of 265 copies, and was unbound.

Schatzke, Joseph. The Cancellations of Mexico: 1856 - 1874. Revised Edition by Karl H. Schimmer, W. E. Shelton, 1983. 314 pp. [Much better than original edition]

Schimmer, Karl H. The Postmarks of Mexico: 1874-1900 (Los Matasellos de Mexico).

Yag, Otto & John K. Bash, The Pre-Stamp Postal Markings of Mexico, MEPSI, 1973. 171 pp. [covers prior to 1856]

Wilson, W. T., The Postmarks of Mexico, 1927, pages? [covers 1856-1872]

You should ignore the price notes. They were made way back then and probably have no relevance today.

I have all of these but the Wilson catalog. Unless you are going to have a lot of stamps prior to 1880, the Schatzke's will not do you a lot of good.

Taylor essentially replaces all of these and is more current. I rarely look at the others any more [Today was first time in months - to check one of the publication dates.]

Mike
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Posted 02/15/2022   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the help. Nora.
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