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Scott 703 With Pre Printing Paper Crease?

 
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Posted 02/17/2022   10:33 am  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add 3193zd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So am I correct that this was done pre-printing?

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Posted 02/17/2022   10:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since the size of the perforations look normal, I would hazard a guess that you have a slight pre-printing crease. Good eyes.
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Posted 02/17/2022   10:48 am  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks! anything odd I try to collect!
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Posted 02/17/2022   12:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you run a finger gently over it, you should feel the distance of the crease.
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Posted 02/19/2022   08:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nuc5 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is a really nice cover
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Posted 02/19/2022   11:42 am  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks everyone!
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Posted 07/22/2022   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Alan B to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If it were a preprinting crease, wouldn't the printing look correct despite the line through it? If I look at the W and the O at the top, as well as DeGrasse's nose, I can see a shift in the images. And the two "s"s in DeGrasse seem awfully close together. But maybe I just don't understand what "preprinting crease" means.

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Posted 07/22/2022   10:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two printing operations.
The red was printed normally, then likely the paper buckled slightly forcing a small crease as the press closed for the black printing. Then off to gumming and perforating.

Add: If this stamp were soaked and ironed-out, the red would appear perfectly correct. The black printing would show a very narrow white unprinted streak along the opened-up fold
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Edited by John Becker - 07/22/2022 10:28 pm
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Posted 07/22/2022   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Add: If this stamp were soaked and ironed-out, the red would appear perfectly correct. The black printing would show a very narrow white unprinted streak along the opened-up fold


Further to John's
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Posted 07/23/2022   03:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Two printing operations.
The red was printed normally, then likely the paper buckled slightly forcing a small crease as the press closed for the black printing. Then off to gumming and perforating.


The black ink (as well as the red) was printed normally then the paper buckled between printing and gumming as well as perforation. If you look at the nose when the SCF image is clicked to enlarge you will clearly see the missing due to creasing section of black on the bridge of the nose. That is where the black creasing stands out due to image design and is less obvious elsewhere in the black design. The upper and lower perforation holes where the crease exits the stamp look normal.

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Gum bend, Gum crease or Gum wrinkle: A natural occurrence in flat-plate printed stamps where the paper has shrunk and the gum did not shrink at the same rate, causing the stamp to wrinkle.

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Edited by Parcelpostguy - 07/23/2022 03:22 am
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Posted 07/23/2022   08:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I stand by my proposed printing chronology. Note the continuous engraved lines of the jacket as they cross the crease. The small gap in the bridge of the nose caused by the extra thickness of the multiple layers of paper, as the crease gets slightly larger as it runs toward the top of the stamp. (Or in other words, the red shows a shortening of the design, the black does not.)
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Posted 07/23/2022   08:58 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I agree with JB.

As for "Gum bend, Gum crease or Gum wrinkle", they are rarely tis extreme.
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