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Postal History, Stampless Covers And What Determines Their Value

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Posted 05/24/2022   07:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! I skipped right past it, looked like a normal ad.
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Posted 05/24/2022   09:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chipshot,

You would likely find a rate chart useful. It will explain the major rate changes in 1845 and 1851, distances, sheets/weights, etc.

You note several as "high rates", which are often a combination of sheets and distance.

The Walworth NY to Kingston NY cover (not Mississippi) is a double-rate cover, rated at 18-3/4 cent for 150-400 miles.

This cover which you sold on eBay several months ago was a prepaid 4x rate for the 6 cent rate for not over 30 miles. Someone snapped it up via BIN quickly as 4x covers are less common, especially prepaid. I wish I had seen it in time. All I could do was save your images.


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Posted 05/25/2022   4:35 pm  Show Profile Check Chipshot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interestingly I did not know what you advise above and I thought the value in the cover was the person to whom it was addressed , Col Beckwith. I pretty much agree with
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this is just an interesting museum of philatelic covers to me.
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This is a 30 cent rate and may be in the 5 X rate, not sure. 5 x 6 cents in 1842.
Wish the group was in better condition, but am happy to share here with the community, not decided yet if I will put this out on eBay.

Thank you John Becker.
Here are a few more that I do intend to put out there on eBay.



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Posted 05/25/2022   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kingston to Malden is about 15 miles, so I would agree it seems to be a 5x rate cover. The contents should provide a clue as to enclosures. It should have had 4.

The broader point to retail value ... it depends on the sender, recipient, contents, postmark & rate (and whether they are handstamps or manuscript), the destination, overall condition and appearance, etc. It is often an art taking in all the factors, rather than a science. The Stampless Cover Catalog listings serve as an initial guide to build upward or downward..
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Posted 05/25/2022   5:57 pm  Show Profile Check Chipshot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John, you are helping me fill in the History and I appreciate your contributions. I have had these in a folder for these many years and feel that I should distribute them to collectors who might appreciate them more than I. I like history and have an appreciation for the Hudson River Valley and the commerce of that day. It certainly was the center of the universe as our US expansion to the west was only getting started and this area was thriving at the time.
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