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2022 Scott Values For C13, C14, C15 Zeppelins?

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Posted 04/08/2022   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Kimo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was wondering if anyone here has at their fingertips a 2022 Scott catalog and can tell me what the catalog values are now for the Graf Zeppelin C-13, C-14, and C-15 stamps in MNH condition? I know that there has been a sad downward trend over many years so I was wondering where it is now? Thanks in advance!

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Posted 04/08/2022   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have the 2022 Scott Vol 1A from my local library:

C13-C15 set of 3 MNH $1675.00

C13 MNH $250
C14 MNH $575
C15 MNH $850

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Posted 04/09/2022   01:50 am  Show Profile Check kcaramat's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add kcaramat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Results of 4/7 Siegel auction:

C13 - C15 $900/$1000

C13 $200/$350
C14 $325/$375
C15 $750/$1200
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Posted 04/09/2022   10:40 am  Show Profile Check jamesg's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jamesg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This set seems to achieve one of the highest sales price as % of catalog value of any U.S. stamp(s) out there though - can anyone explain why? (Others stamps' real world prices are more disconnnected from catalog value than these?)
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Posted 04/09/2022   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There were almost 300 recorded auction sales of C13-15 on SAN last year with a combined sales value of $317,000. Plate blocks, regular blocks, graded and ungraded in all gum states and a few used thrown in. There has always been a glut of these on the market and yet the demand for these popular subject matter stamps keeps the value pumped up. I see houses like Cherrystone sell true rarities from non-US countries all of the time for small percentages of cv if they sell at all.

The "zeps" are popular "I have arrived" stamps with great design, some sexy history and popular topical subject matter. They are the airmail equivalent of "Cattle in the Storm".
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Posted 04/10/2022   1:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
THANK YOU, everyone! You are the best!

I agree that these stamps seem to be more available than their prices suggest, but on the other hand, in my personal opinion they are one of the top three if not the most beautiful US stamps ever issued. And this is combined with the $4.55 price one would have paid at the post office in April, 1930 which was six months into the great depression. $4.55 may not sound like such a large amount to us today, but back in 1930 the cost of postage for a letter was 2 cents and because of inflation it is 58 cents today. The relatively large amount of "extra" money that a collector would have to have decided to indulge in a buying three small pieces of paper for a hobby would have been hard to come by for most people during the great depression when so many were just looking for their next meal.
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Posted 04/10/2022   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The U.S. Airmail stamps are one of the more affordable sets to complete, even with the Zeppelins.
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Posted 04/10/2022   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't collect airmails. My interests lie in the 1847 and 1851 issues - as far from airmail as one can get, perhaps. However, I saw this for sale a few years back and just HAD to get it:





Even though I had no particular interest in this, historically, I just couldn't walk away from it. Ain't it purty??

As others have said, Zepps are not rare. They are ALL about the demand in the supply vs demand equation. People that have no interest in airmails or 20th century stamps often DO want a set of Zepps. I suspect there are more fools out there like me. On the plus-side of this anomalous demand: if you have a set and want to sell, you should have no problem whatsoever. If you need to get a certain amount of $$$, though, you may be in trouble. It is really easy for any collector to see what a set is currently worth - sets sell on the open market all the time.
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Posted 04/10/2022   3:36 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have not updated this since 2017; https://stampsmarter.org/learning/Z...gTrends.html

If folks can post the Scott catalog values for 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 I'll update the charts.

As the charts show, a MNH set of Zeps have a 2017 catalog value about the same as they were in 1940 (when factoring in for inflation).
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Posted 04/10/2022   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
2019:

C13 MINT/MNH $180/$250 C13 USED $150
C14 MINT/MNH $375/$575 C13 USED $350
C15 MINT/MNH $550/$900 C13 USED $550

2020:

C13 MINT/MNH $175/$240 C13 USED $150
C14 MINT/MNH $360/$550 C14 USED $350
C15 MINT/MNH $525/$825 C14 USED $550

Edited to add 2019 used values.
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Posted 04/10/2022   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Zepps are a philatelic issue with a very high survival rate. The value is based on popularity.
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Posted 04/10/2022   8:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
2017:

C13 MINT/MNH $190/$275 C13 USED $165
C14 MINT/MNH $400/$625 C14 USED $375
C15 MINT/MNH $575/$975 C15 USED $600
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Posted 04/10/2022   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
2018:

C13 MINT/MNH $180/$250 C13 USED $150
C14 MINT/MNH $375/$575 C14 USED $350
C15 MINT/MNH $550/$925 C15 USED $550
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Posted 04/10/2022   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tsmatx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased C13-C15 within the past couple months (also 292, so "I have arrived"!!), after sitting through many auctions. Usually they go for 2 or 3 increments above opening. I always kept getting into the situation where the high bid was the price I wanted to pay, but it wasn't my bid, and going one increment over was too much. After this kept happening I decided just to put my foot down and purchase the next one I saw. It is time consuming to attend these auctions, wait for your lot to come up, and then if you don't win, wait a few weeks until the next one. So I got frustrated and impatient and overpaid. Even the auctioneer seemed surprised at my bid. Invoiced over $1000 including tip and sales tax for hinged set.
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Posted 04/18/2022   01:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that there does not seem to be much of a shortage of C13, C14 and C15 Zeppelin stamps, though truly fine MNH with perfect centering, no pulled perfs, etc. etc. do seem to be rare and their prices reflect it. It reminds me of some other things that are in high demand such as diamonds. Diamonds are not at all rare, just think how many people own diamond jewelry, how many engagement rings are worn by how many women around the world, but their prices are very high and reflect people's interest in owning them. And as the quality of diamonds increases prices increase disproportionately as well. Most US stamp collectors have these Zepps high on their want list.
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Posted 04/18/2022   08:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pcerio to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is one set I really wish I didn't have. I inherited my C13-C15.
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