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Help With Scott Number For 7 Cent Washington Perforations 11.5 X 12

 
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Posted 05/06/2022   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ItsOnlyMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I purchased a stamp book and this stamp was there.
I'm having trouble finding the Scott number or date for perforations.

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Posted 05/06/2022   3:20 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome. Double check the perfs, there was no 12x11.5
https://stampsmarter.org/1847usa/wa...d37perf.html
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Posted 05/07/2022   05:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ItsOnlyMoney to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I doubled check and its definitely not PERFORATIONS 10. Nor 11
Perf 11.5 both ends fit BUT CENTER is off.
AND perf. 12 one end FITS BUT last 4 are off even if you line left to right or right to left
Could it be A TRANSITIONAL perf error,
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Posted 05/07/2022   06:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ItsOnlyMoney to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I JUST FOUND IN SAME BOOK
THESE STAMPS. WITH A NOTE.
THE SINGLE IS A SCOTT 594 BUT ITS PRETTY DAMEFED, WOULD IT BE WORTH ANYTHING?
ALSO NEXT TO IT , A HORIZONTAL PAIR WITH A NOTE SAYING THIS IS THE PAIR THAT CAUSED THE 594.
IT DID NOT GIVE A SCOTT NUMBER.
ALL ARE PERFORATIONS 11
AND ALL MEASURES 19 3/4 X 22 1/4.
WOULDN'T THE PAIR JUST BE TWO SCOTT 594.
IF I SEND TO CERTIFY, WOULD THEY EVEN GRADE THEM BECAUSE OF CONDITION?



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Posted 05/07/2022   06:43 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please do not using CAPS in your posts, it is against the rules.
https://www.stampcommunity.org/rules.asp#rulesid3

Your 7 cents is a perf 12, it is not a 'transitional', it is a 407.

You should not be trying to ID the Franklins by design dimensions; the tolerances are far too tight to be measured reliably. The pair is obviously from a booklet, and booklet stamp paper is a slightly different size. But again, trying to ID these stamp using dimensions is not the way to proceed. The booklet format, and the color (in this stamp), and the perf 11 makes it a 552a.
https://stampsmarter.org/1847usa/19...ntifier.html

Please take a look at this article that one of our SCF members authored on 594s
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/I...arities.html

And this article will help you understand the differences between printing types in Washington/Franklins (and show you a template method)
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/M...methods.html
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Posted 05/09/2022   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ItsOnlyMoney to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My question is after doing all that , and I still believe it is what I said.
Are the stamps worth anything in the condition they are now?
Would they even get certified or graded?
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Posted 05/09/2022   8:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your Franklin stamps are booklet stamps and therefore cannot be in any way, shape or from 594. No way, no how. Ever.

But if you are determined to burn some cash without using a match and gasoline then send them in for an opinion.

Good luck with that.
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You should heed the advice given earlier. Scott 594 was never issued in booklet format and your stamps are from a booklet pane. And, as rogdcam indicated, booklet stamps of that era had slightly different dimensions due to shrinkage while drying. Stamps printed on booklet paper & sheet paper had the paper grain in different directions ... one was vertical, the other horizontal. Shrinkage across the grain was about 4 times as much as shrinkage with the grain ... hence the different dimensions.
Added: Oops, my bad. It was Don, not Rog who mentioned the dimension difference for booklet stamps vs. sheet stamps.
As rogdcam suggested, if you wish to waste some money, by all means submit them for authentication. Just be aware that there is ZERO chance of them being 594. Not a small chance ... a zero chance. I would recommend that you instead buy some lottery tickets. While your chances would still be almost zero, they would in fact not actually be zero.
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Posted 05/10/2022   03:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ItsOnlyMoney to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I'm asking the wrong way.
I get it, there is a good chance they are not. If I decide to go that route , I will just burn money.
Now that's behind .
My question still is..
If by a miracle, he'll mary and he'll froze over and they happen to be.
Would anyone want to buy them with the kind of damage they have ?
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Posted 05/10/2022   06:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Damaged. Will not cert. No miracle for you and will not sell.

You are not a hoarder. You are an accumulator. Hoarders do not sell.
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Quote:
Maybe I'm asking the wrong way.
I get it, there is a good chance they are not. If I decide to go that route , I will just burn money.
Now that's behind .
My question still is..
If by a miracle, he'll mary and he'll froze over and they happen to be.
Would anyone want to buy them with the kind of damage they have ?


Definition of pointless
1 : devoid of meaning : SENSELESS

Examples of pointless in a Sentence
It would be pointless for us to continue the investigation.
a pointless remark that left everyone scratching their heads in confusion
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Posted 05/10/2022   07:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When you receive the certs as 594's someone, I do not know who yet, will descend from heaven and gavel your stamps down. They will sell.
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