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Le Désordre Est Le Délice De L'imagination / Serbien

 
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Posted 05/10/2022   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Lx44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Dear all,
Being a rockhunter more than a well organized stamp collector I intend to sell some series accumulated along generations. I entered your community to evaluate a first series of "Serbien" 1941-1945 stamps ( a gift likely offered to grand Ma by princess Maria Pia ) . The album has likely a stronger historical meaning as a whole instead of dispersing each item, but is there a chance to find a buyer whose collecting habits have likely led to partial accumulation if interested by this topic.
One specific question is : how to quote oddities such as
https://worldstampsproject.org/wp-c...te-error.jpg
2 + 4 din, dark blue Additional door on the tower in the center.
What does Scott #2NB5 / 2NB6 stands for ?
Are stamps harboring the " Waterlow & sons LtD. London" underline just mere facsimiles ?
Success to your Quests in this world of specialists.
Al
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Posted 05/10/2022   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A few thoughts to get things going:
--the oddity of which you speak is called a plate error, in this case on stamp Mi 49A, Sc 2NB4, Yv OA 34. It's possible the plate error has a designation in Michel, you'd need to find a catalog and look. Then just identify it with that number. If not, the description you used, along with the catalog number, is sufficient.
--as for "Scott #2NB5 / 2NB6," that's just the convention used by Scott (N = occupation regular issue, B = semipostal). As you see from above, each catalog has their own system.
--not sure what you mean by "Waterlow & sons LtD. London underline," though Waterlow was a major stamp and currency engraver in the 19th and 20th centuries, doing work for countries world-wide.
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Posted 05/10/2022   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the stamp was printed by Waterlow & Sons Ltd. of London, it is likely the printer's name is imprinted somewhere on the selvedge. Usually, it is imprinted below the bottom row of the sheet.
So, if by underline you mean in the selvedge attached to a stamp, most likely you have a completely genuine positional stamp with what is called the 'printer's imprint.'

Without additional information on what you mean by this, it is impossible to tell what it is. If it is on the back of the stamp, it could be an essay or proof.

Considering it was a German occupation issues, it may have been material from Waterlow's archive.
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Edited by NSK - 05/10/2022 09:49 am
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Posted 05/10/2022   1:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lx44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your encouraging comments.
I have not yet identified a list of Serbien 1941-1945 stamps on https://www.stamp-collecting-world.com
But a good approximation is apparently provided on : https://www.lastdodo.fr/fr/areas/15...erbie?page=2 ;
and some varieties appear on :
https://worldstampsproject.org/germ...p-varieties/
would you know about alternative ressources ?
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=97 gives some details too showing that mint versions are cheaper than used
Is there an optimized strategy to identify stamps references from pictures ?
I have tried Scanning from Acrobat Pro ( cropping and saving as xx. Jpeg) & searching with Goole image. This has worked for Sc 2NB4
But for the attached pictures ( Waterlow printed) & with https://www.pinterest.fr/hjswalden/...tage-stamps/
, I essentially got this hit:
https://www.pinterest.fr/pin/484348134906324583/ provided by Jane Walden.
Is Jane a member of a forum known by your community ?


My initial doubts were due to UK printing for a German invaded territory , not considering properly the dates.
Should these questions be shifted to an adequate topic ?
In Progress.
Al
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Posted 05/10/2022   1:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.lastdodo.fr/fr/items/84...nes-celebres
https://www.lastdodo.fr/fr/areas/50...MjIwNDE4Ny4w

First unissued series also has an aeroplane as part of the overprint. Without the aeroplanes, it is listed under cinderellas.

Note: Lastdodo is a mess.
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Edited by NSK - 05/10/2022 1:37 pm
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Posted 05/10/2022   1:31 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamps were printed in London for the Yugoslav government in exile, hence the use of Waterlow. A number of the governments in exile had stamps printed here.
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Edited by GeoffHa - 05/10/2022 1:32 pm
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Posted 05/10/2022   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Should these questions be shifted to an adequate topic ?


Yes! That is why we have all these different posts!
I have a feeling you did not familiarize yourself with this forum?


Peter

Oh, welcome, and you might try www.stampworld.com .
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Edited by Petert4522 - 05/10/2022 1:35 pm
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Posted 05/10/2022   2:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lx44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot for the bootstap links .
French speaking Canadians would say for the 'Déniaisement".

Even block stamps like1941 Semendria are not that worth when unused in fine.
Next post (if any) will be more specific.
Success to your quests . Rv
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Posted 05/10/2022   2:50 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome.

A few thoughts...
The forum disallows selling/buying/trading until members have 50+ posts. This allows everyone to get to know each other and limits a lot of drive-by memberships only looking to pitch their material.

We also frown on posting a lot of external links until the members have 50+ posts; it is preferred that folks upload images here. This discourages people from joining just to promote websites and ensures that thread remain viable into the future. And please also note that some people are hesitant to click on external links (especially by brand new members).

This is mostly an introduction forum category. Moving forward with new threads, using other forum categories like 'World Stamps' is likely to be viewed by a more targeted audience.
Don
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Posted 05/11/2022   08:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lx44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I understand the logic. Many thanks for your initial permissiveness.
Rv
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