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What Qualifies As A Revenue Stamp?

 
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Posted 05/21/2022   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jossanders52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Even after collecting Thailand revenue stamps for 25++ years, I am still sometime confused what qualifies as a revenue.
I will give a sample below.
The Thailand document is a permission or license to operate a HAM radio in 1938.
In the top right is a label or stamp with some serial number written inside.
I am sure money had to be paid to acquire this license.
The label/ stamp is not listed anywhere.
So what is it, label or revenue? Please give me your thoughts on this.
Thanks

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Posted 05/21/2022   02:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The label reads: Post and telegraph department number 10/481
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Posted 05/21/2022   07:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could be it was just a label showing the document was registered and sealed by the Siam post.


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Posted 05/21/2022   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I am still sometime confused what qualifies as a revenue.

The UPU requires that postage stamps have an express face value; I'd imagine any definition of revenue stamp would have something similar. So, since this sticker has no value printed or written upon it, it's not a revenue stamp, and is indeed a label.
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Posted 05/21/2022   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Revenue stamps would normally have a value either in money or in product quantity; however if all radios were treated equally and a fee was identical in all cases it might not necessarily have one. More research is needed.
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Posted 05/21/2022   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The FIP definition of a revenue includes: (1) shows payment of a fee or tax or that the object is exempt from a tax, (2) shows that one has a credit with the government, or (3) pays a fee for a government service. In much of my writing about the definition of revenues I have amplified this last category to include registrations or license fees. So I would include your example as a revenue stamp. Just because it does not appear in a Thai revenue catalog, should not be interpreted as it is not a revenue. In fact the Scott U.S.Specialized lists less than half the federal revenue stamps.

Parenthetically, one should note that the last category probably includes postage stamps, as they pay a fee for a government service. So, postage stamps are simply a subcategory of revenue stamps!!
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Posted 05/21/2022   12:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks revenuermd.

The stamp on the document and the loose stamp have the logo of the Post and Telegraph department of Thailand. Can the post department be considered a government department?

Also as separate question, are airport departure fee receipts or stamps also considered as revenue stamps?
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Posted 05/21/2022   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jossanders52. Airport departure fees payable with stamps are certainly revenues. In every case I know, there is an agency created by legislation of some sort that gives the "taxing" authority to these agencies. Here in the US I believe these agencies are referred to as airport authorities.
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Posted 05/22/2022   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jos,
I would direct enquiries here, for possible ID

https://www.qsl.net/rast/text/licensing2016.html

Email address: hs1fvl(AT)gmail.com

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Edited by rod222 - 05/22/2022 7:59 pm
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Posted 05/23/2022   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rod,
will contact them for more info.
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