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France, Type Blanc: What Sort Of Cancellation Is This?

 
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Posted 05/27/2022   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add EMaxim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Nearest I could find is "Jour de l'an" but all examples look somewhat different.

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Posted 05/27/2022   2:19 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a stamp used on a newspaper, appied to the newsprint, with the ink-stamp then carrying on beyond the stamp onto the journal.
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Posted 05/27/2022   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with geoff - it is not a cancel but just part of newsprint. Examples of this have been shown here several times


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Posted 05/27/2022   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Curious. I finally did find something similar after several searches on this site. http://goscf.com/t/19850&whichpage=9
Why would there be a postage stamp on blank newsprint headed for the printer?
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Posted 05/27/2022   3:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do not know what you are asking, but these stamps were sometimes affixed before printing, hence the printing on the stamp
The stamps were applied by the printer



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Posted 05/27/2022   3:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So the purpose of the stamp was to pay the subsequently printed paper's eventual passage through the post? I don't doubt that you're right, but in that case, shouldn't the stamp have been one of those "pour imprimés"?

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Edited by EMaxim - 05/27/2022 3:41 pm
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Posted 05/27/2022   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some info here ( in french,sorry! )
https://www.marcophilie.org/obltyp.html
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Posted 05/27/2022   5:16 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you mean precancelled stamps, aside from an extremely expensive group that appeared in 1893, they weren't used until 1920.
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Grand merci, Vayolene. Des renseignements en français ne posent pas de problèmes.

Thanks also to Geoff and Peter.

And, now that I know what I'm looking at, I find that the Y&T Spécialisé, Tome I, has in its chapter "Timbres pour journaux" a very nice section on precisely this sort of cancellation, called "Annulation typographique," accompanied by at least one very suitable picture. The following lines are especially relevant: "Les timbres ayant servi à l'affranchissement des journaux de 1870 à 1908 ne sont donc pas, pour la plupart, oblitérés avec un cachet postal, mais couverts de caractères d'imprimerie; c'était, ainsi, une sorte de préoblitération." In English: "Stamps, having served for the franking of newspapers from 1870 to 1908, were not, for the most part, cancelled with a postal device but covered with printer's type. This was thus a sort of pre-cancel."
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