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Reversed Paper Or Reversed Watermark ?

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Posted 06/08/2022   03:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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Posted 06/08/2022   03:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wilding mad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
More thanks must go to rod222 for supplying the text relating to this Austrian stamp paper in question.

From reading the text, the final result appears to be of a thick smooth paper, whereby my papers are thinner than normal being of a quite translucent nature.

I am not sure what to make of that ? As they do not appear to be similar to the Austrian ones in that respect.

Nevertheless, interesting !

It would have been handy if a photo had been available for comparison. WM.
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Posted 06/08/2022   9:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mikyh -
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In John Easton's "Postage Stamps in the Making" published in 1949, the following appear under a section on Paper problems and remedies:

Irregularities in the felts between which hand-made paper is pressed, or the cylinders coverd wth felt in the case of machine-made papers, frequently gives the impression that a paper is ribbed.

The so called ribbed paper on some early Austrian issues were caused by the newness of the felt on the cylinders.

Something for you to investigate.


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The type of stamp paper that I have found sounds similar to the case of the Austrian variants as you have described, I have checked these reversed (single ribbed) papers under long wave UV to find that some are on a cream type of paper whereby others are of the whiter variety, therefore the paper must have been produced sometime around 1962 during the change-over period.


There is zero correlation between the Austrian stamps referenced and the Wildings which are the subject of this topic.

In the case of the Austrian stamps the paper has a ribbed-like texture that can be felt and seen with the naked eye. It fits the classic definition of ribbed paper.

The Wildings do not have that feature.

We keep coming back to calling the Wilding papers something which they are not, ribbed paper. They exhibit a watermark-like feature when in fluid much like many stamp papers do.

Let us put this to rest.

If you measure the Wilding paper with a micrometer at regular intervals such as where a line appears when the stamp is dipped and where a line is not visible do you get different measurements?
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Posted 06/09/2022   01:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wilding mad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rogdcam ......

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In the case of the Austrian stamps the paper has a ribbed-like texture that can be felt and seen with the naked eye. It fits the classic definition of ribbed paper.

The Wildings do not have that feature.


For the sake of argument and the fact you are obsessed with the use of the word "ribbing" rogdcam, here is the correct definition of what the markings in the stamp papers resemble on a geometric basis. >

In geometry, parallel lines are coplanar straight lines that do not intersect at any point. Parallel planes are planes in the same three-dimensional space that never meet. Parallel curves are curves that do not touch each other or intersect and keep a fixed minimum distance. Wikipedia

And to say that these lines cannot be seen with the naked eye is a complete fallacy by you !!!

It has already been decided that these are not ribbed papers, therefore your interjection and comments especially on visibility are invalid. WM.


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Posted 06/09/2022   02:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@rogdcam,

You are flogging a dead horse.
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Posted 06/09/2022   03:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wilding mad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The feeling is mutual.

In using simple descriptive words regarding parallel lines that resemble ribbing! WM
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Edited by Wilding mad - 06/09/2022 03:07 am
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Posted 06/09/2022   07:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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You are flogging a dead horse.


Oh, the irony!
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Posted 06/09/2022   08:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wilding mad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the parallel lined framework within the structure of the paper resembles ribbing, then that is the word I shall use to describe the pattern found.

*** Edited by Staff - Please review the rules that you agreed to when you registered. ***

There's no problem in using the word "ribbing" : stay cool, and don't get so perturbed ! WM.
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