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Why Are Some Old Stamps Worth More Used Than New

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Posted 07/05/2022   04:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add cherytwist to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
while cataloging stamps from Aden and Antigua, using Scotts 2017 cat. some of the stamps are way more valuable used than beautiful and clean. How can that be? For instance, Antigua #30 "The Seal of the Colony", new, is listed for $110.00 while used is listed for $160.00? Sigh...







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Posted 07/05/2022   04:54 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps were, originally, designed to be used for sending things, hard though it sometimes is to remember that amidst a wave of "collectable" junk. The obsession with unmounted or mint stamps is a relatively recent one. In the case of many stamps, a genuine, postally used (i.e. not cancelled to order or cancelled by favour or used for fiscal purposes) copy will be much scarcer than a mint one, especially for high face value stamps.
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Posted 07/05/2022   05:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Simple question of (relative) rarity.

Some colonial stamps were delivered to dealers or could be bought from post office agents.
If, at all, the stamps reached the colonies, use may have been sparse. The mint stamps are plentiful and used rare. If I remember correctly PostmasterGS wrote something about German stamps for use in China available in Berlin, but extremely rare used at the agency.

An example are the overprints for many British Postal Agencies on British stamps. Most stamps used abroad (Morocco, Arabian Peninsula, Middle East Forces) were philatelically used. genuine postal use is rare. Mint stocks bought by collectors either at the agencies, but also from the GPO in London are not so scarce.

This, also, is a caveat. The higher prices for used only apply to genuine postal use. Philatelic use, or the CTO mentioned by GeoffHa may not hold value at all.
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Posted 07/05/2022   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cephus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Purely supply and demand. In an instance where legitimately used copies are scarce and people want them, prices will rise.
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Posted 07/05/2022   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If used worth more than mint beware of forged cancellations.
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Posted 07/05/2022   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
German Inflation Era stamps always come to mind when this topic arises.
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Posted 07/06/2022   7:13 pm  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Recent letter rate issue used stamps in Australia for some years now are more expensive than mint stamps. It was talked about for years before this happened to all recent issue not just isolated 1 here and there. It was about 2016 that this phoneme started to happen. Now it is my bulk collecting area. So be it. Not too many people have caught on this as yet. It is just too new to stamping yet.
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Posted 07/06/2022   7:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many British colonial stamps were able to serve postage or revenue duty.

It's easier to find high value stamps with fiscal cancellations than postal.

One can only imagine what would've attracted 1 of postage in 1925 from Tanganyika.
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Posted 07/06/2022   9:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not mentioned above is one caveat, the postal use must be contemporaneous to the period of stamp availability from the postal agency and shortly (What is shortly? Well it depends. ) thereafter. Also the cancellation must be consistent with the cancelling devices used during the accepted time period and places of use. Some very rare used items require the date to clearly show on the stamp and or on the stamp and cover to which it is attached.

This, used more expensive than new, is not limited to "old or classic stamps." My post prior to this one was done here: http://goscf.com/t/71072 7th post down regarding a 1968 Haitian stamp $40 verses $50. 1968 may be before you were born but is considered "modern" by the mobs who control such definitions.
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Posted 07/06/2022   10:08 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Supply and demand, and supply depends on not only how many were used, but how many were saved after use. Stamps used on parcels were less likely to survive the journey in good shape and probably less likely to be saved too.
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Posted 07/07/2022   02:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
One can only imagine what would've attracted 1 of postage in 1925 from Tanganyika.


Sending a giraffe to London, of course.
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Posted 07/10/2022   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cherytwist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree redwoodrandy that this would be easy to forge. Thank you all for your help. I'm learning!
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Posted 07/10/2022   4:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cherytwist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are cto stamps legit when it comes to Scotts pricing for used stamps?

Thanks Again,
chery
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Posted 07/10/2022   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nope. Essentially, they are not used, just defaced.
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Posted 07/10/2022   5:00 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rather depends on what they are. Some earlier, scarcer Australian stamps are commonly cancelled to order, for example - genuinely postally used examples would carry a premium.
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Posted 07/10/2022   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cherytwist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How can you tell a cto from a regular cancel? Does it take years of experience or can it be explained?
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